It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
“the Ethiopian community has the lowest status of Israel’s [multiracial] Jewish communities,” the Ethiopian Israeli scholar, activist, and writer Efrat Yerday, who is also chair of the Association for Ethiopian Jews, told me”
But a randomer on an Irish board knows better
And now we're on to dishonesty.
'YOU'RE the one who mentioned Nazis, I only mentioned Goebbels, Buchenwald and Nazi Era Germany'
It's nothing to do with shutting down 'truths' (whatever you happen to mean by that) and everything to do with becoming jaded reading WW2 era related analogies. It's such a tired, juvenile thing to fall back on.
We get it, you don't like 'Zionists'. Whatever way you attempt to frame it though, they are not Nazi Germans. I think it's only fringe lunatics who would agree with you there.
Truth hurts. Try not to take facts personally. Things are recorded and the world will look back on what you are supporting one day and wonder how it was allowed, and even encouraged
You are overthinking it. Most got the reference and the vast majority had no issue with it. Let's move past it.
And please quote Blazing Saddles all you want...a superb film
That's kind of my point.
Most people did get the reference, but would also be up in arms if the "R" word was bandied about when referring to someone or something they agreed with.
It's just a double standard which irks me.
And I would love to quote Blazin' Saddles:
Lebanon Hezbollah v Israel - current situation and historical clashes - Why Israel is invading Lebanon
Like back in the day when people wondered how the Germans convinced it was ok to blame Jews for the ills in the world…
Glad to see that won't happen again.
*edit: I was being glib. Just thought it was too good an opportunity to miss.
You could just use the sanitised version if the movie quote irks you so much, I believe it's "go full Lidl".
Im sad to say, I don't get that joke. :(
…and this is thoroughly unconvincing as well.
here is my silly Q.
I believe around Tel Aviv, there is the "iron dome" air defense system among others - which seems to do the job perfectly and intercepts almost everything…….If this is the case, why do Hamas bother firing expensive missiles and rockets at Tel Aviv if they are more than likely going to get intercepted?
Thanks for the feedback Tony, but I am not really worried how convinced you are.
I said my piece, you didn't like it and weren't "convinced". That's ok with me. Random man on the internet doesn't believe me. We will both survive this.
Are you sure you will?
That could be read as a little sinister threat.
Perhaps do a little better there Tony. Not really a good look.
Can we please get back on topic and not have a back and forth on here? You are welcome to PM me as long as you don't message me with creepy stuff like above.
I've often wondered that myself. It does seem a bit performative. It's like they want to be seen to have at least attempted something.
Yeah, knowing that they wouldn't leave, so now that they've 'warned them' they can bomb this branch of UN to add them to the list of other non combatants they have already bombed.
I not sure how much the rockets fired at Israel cost but the Israeli interceptor missiles cost (USD)
Iron Dome: $50k each
David's sling: $1m each
Arrow 2 / 3: $2m - $3.5m each
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20385306
will israel strike back against iran missile attack this week or wait a bit more to influence US election...
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. The western media has done a bang up job convincing people like you that 'Israel has a right to defend themselves' by repeatedly and blatantly committing international war crimes, meanwhile the actual fact of the matter is that the Palestinian people are the ones with international law on their side. They are the ones being occupied. They have the right to fight the occupational force, in this case Israel.
This has been a war long before Oct 7th. Oct 7th is only notable because the Palestinians were able to strike back. In the grand scheme of things it was just a blip. It was weaponized by the extremely powerful Israeli propaganda machine to paint Israel as the victim and the Palestinians as barbaric animals not worthy of sympathy. When, in fact the Israelis have been the class (region) bully all along. As soon as someone they've been picking on (for 75 years) fights back they cry to the teacher.
Everything they were claiming the Palestinians were doing has been disproved or there is no evidence to substantiate. However we've seen mountains of video evidence of Israel committing the same and far worse.
Over 140,000 people dead in Gaza. Roughly 10% of the population. This is clear, unadulterated genocide. There is no excuse. Israel must be stopped. The weapons to Israel must be stopped.
We know the limit of escalation this could reach and it will destroy the world as we know it. The USA is only enabling this. The very worst part of all this is that the US is doing it all for oil, power and profit. No care for anything else. Constantly breaking their own rules and laws when it suits them.
You drank the Kool Aid.
The rockets are really primitive. They're made out of pipes and fuelled with sugar and fertilizer. I saw an article about Iron Dome that put the cost of the Hamas rockets at €600 (or was it $600?) each but when it's made out of scavenged material it would be hard to place a cost on one.
Wow. I honestly didn't know that.
There is a documentary out there on the Oct 7th attack with footage of the barbarity carried out if you have the stomach to watch what hams did. Jews have been in Israel for thousands of years. Longer than Islam has been a religion.
It would make perfect sense if you didn't want blacks outbreeding the good white zionists. Save their lives but don't let them take over. As has been pointed out before this story has never been debunked by credible impartial sources - it still stands as true.
Israel being too readily accepting of civilian casualties in their attempt to wipe out Hamas/Hezbollah isn't the same as Israel fostering a plan to systematically exterminate entire races of people numbering in the millions.
I think the Nazi's murdered around 10 million people as it was in around 3 and a half years before military defeat put an end to it. In some periods in 1944 in particular they were murdering like 15-20 thousand people per day.
By all means argue that Israel is committing war crimes, doesn't care about Palestinian lives, is using radically excessive force, doesn't want peace, et al.
But saying they're just like Nazi Germany is extreme hyperbole and it's also just not true.
Certainly, there is footage of that one day on October 7th that is probably very gruesome (I've not watched it).
There is also footage of the barbarity carried out by Israel in Gaza - for each of the 365 days following October 7th.
That’s what happens when you start a war you can’t win, store weapons in civilian locations and refuse to surrender.
You are aware that's not how the ICJ operates right? That they don't rule on current "conflicts" until well after the fact. I mean the fact that they are investigating the case SA brought before them means that they believe a genocide is plausibly being committed. So we'll just leave that there.
In any case that put aside, the ruling of the ICJ shouldn't really play a part in it, that will come out in due course if its allowed to run its course without the Israeli's and their allies threatening those investigating it. I mean all being transparent they'd have nothing to hide right?
But there are multiple scholars and commentators, both Israeli and international that have said what Israel has done is genocidal. See;
Martin Shaw - Author of what is Genocide
Amos Goldberg - Holocaust Scholar
Omer Bartov - Holocaust Historian
The UN!!!
To name but a few. Even at that you don't need to look far to find multiple members of the Knesset who've expressed genocidal intent. Which should actually qualify in itself as genocidal.
But by all means rely on a ruling which won't be given until the conflict is over and will most likely be blocked by Israel and its merry band of enablers in any case.
If you read the comment Yvonne you would have seen it was referencing Israel and their actions over the last year, and not people defending them so spare us the pearl clutching and faux outrage. There's a report button if you take that much exception to it.
Israel was created in 1948
I don't think the circa 20,000 children started anything. But do feel free to justify their deaths.