It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Thats a bold statement and I'll be honest, if you can give me some verifiable proof from a non biased source, that what you are saying is true, it will alter my opinion on what's happening.
I have heard similar claims, but they always seemed to come from very Anti Israel sources. I give them as much credibility as I do pro Israel sources.
Hezbollah had agreed a ceasefire just before Nasrsallahs death, he also had converted to Judaism and was launching an initiative to end global hunger.
All those profound plans went with him.
All Hamas have to do is order all fighters to dump arms, release all hostages and turn themselves in.
That's all.
They both refuse to do so.
Noted anti-Israel politician Netanyahu said numerous times last year that fighting would continue even if there was a hostage deal
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/israeli-pm-netanyahu-says-war-will-continue-in-state-even-if-hostage-deal-is-agreed-101700601376547.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/11/29/netanyahu-vows-fighting-in-gaza-will-resume-after-hostages-released/
And earlier this year said it would continue even if a ceasefire was agreed with Hamas
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/23/netanyahu-says-war-will-continue-even-if-deal-agreed-with-hamas
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/30/netanyahu-vows-to-raid-rafah-with-or-without-hostage-deal
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-rafah-offensive-will-go-ahead-with-or-without-hostage-deal/
I will read them in detail when I get a chance later.
But before I do, can you tell me that if the main jist of those articles are quoting Netanyahu saying that the offensive will continue until Hamas surrender or are eliminated and that just the return of hostages won't cut it?
Because that's what I have heard previously.
(Also the "Noted anti-israeli politician" comment doesn't really encourage me to debate or converse with you in good faith)
If there was an attack on a military target in Tel Aviv that killed scores of Israeli civilians you wouldn't glibly dismiss it as they were around the IDF so it was their fault they died. You'd be saying what a tragedy it was. Israel can fight its war, but as a state that you seem to view as civilised with western values that then doesn't give it carte blanche to commit war crimes in the process. You are quick to condemn the other side for things you outright deny or ignore the IDF has done. We can go through them but i know it's a waste of time as you will find an excuse to justify them - just as you did for the IDF helping out Al Nusra in Syria.
Also you are quick to point out what the other side can do to reduce tension, but as usual with your one eyed approach you don't call for Israel to abide by agreements and court decisions. Bibi loves war as much as Hezbollah and Sinwar do as it's helping to keep him in power and avoid a possible jail sentence.
Yes. In response to the earlier post which contained the standard trope of "Hamas could stop all this tomorrow if they just let the hostages go and therefore it is entirely their fault that the poor IDF have to annihilate a maternity hospital in Beirut". It's not true in any way, shape or form.
(They may or may not have hit a maternity hospital yet. But they definitely have targeted other medical facilities for the simple reason that less doctors and nurses means that more civilians die or are maimed from their injuries)
Hayya said the group was not prepared to make concessions on its demands that Israel end the war, pull out its forces from Gaza, return internally displaced residents to their homes, and strike a prisoners-for-hostages deal.Netanyahu has vowed the war can only end once Hamas is eradicated.
Hayya said the group was not prepared to make concessions on its demands that Israel end the war, pull out its forces from Gaza, return internally displaced residents to their homes, and strike a prisoners-for-hostages deal.
Netanyahu has vowed the war can only end once Hamas is eradicated.
Who is the unreasonable party in this instance?
Clearly Israel, with an impossible goal of eradicating Hamas, given that the more bombs they drop the more members join Hamas and get radicalised.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-israel-still-blocking-ceasefire-agreement-2024-10-06/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68964108
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/06/middleeast/hamas-ceasefire-offer-gaza-war-mime-intl/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-talks.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/03/middleeast/lebanon-hezbollah-nasrallah-ceasefire-assassination-intl-latam/
You initially posted this in #1725 of this thread: "There is absolutely zero evidence of any rapes on October 7th 2023 being done by Hamas".
If you want to dismiss the Guardian as an Israel-friendly outlet, so be it. Israel's refusal to allow the UN to investigate may or may not be right but it does not lead to a conclusion that somehow there is no evidence.
I agree with one thing you said: good day. It is pointless haveing a reasonable discussion with some people.
I'm not in the slightest bit interested in grandstanding. Do you take back your use of the term "bloodied up"? Or do you think that's acceptable language to describe the images that were shown of that young woman.
And look what happened to them. Do you think the US should go into Israel and remove their Government? Is that what you are suggesting?
Judging by the reasons Israelis are demonstrating against their government, it seems there was no surprise. Just that their Govt. failed to protect them utterly. And I heard on RTE that many of the Southern Kibbutzim refused to take part in Govt. commemoration events.
Its also one year on since the hostages were taken.
Haaretz (Sunday):
From Oxford Languages:
"a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims"
it has had 21 years to get ready for this since the last american invasion of Iraq. Iran has an aging air force, but vast stock piles of drones and rockets. There is no country defeating it. Also you will find the american public has little interest in sending it's sons and daughters to fight a war that has nothing to do with them.
When will israel release the 3340 hostages they have??
Is Haim Rubinstein an anti-israel source??
According to Haim Rubinstein, who had until April 2024 been the spokesman of the Hostages and Missing Families Forum representing the families of the hostages, the group "found out that Hamas had offered on October 9 or 10 to release all the civilian hostages in exchange for the IDF not entering the [Gaza] Strip, but the [Israeli] government rejected the offer."
Very powerful video.
Hardly surprising Israel have prevent journalists entering Gaza and recently shut down Al Jazeera. And killed more journalists in one year than in the whole of WWII.
Israel does not want the truth to be told to anyone. Shame on them.
Eh what?
If you have evidence that the IDF is deliberately killing rescue crews, then share it.
Otherwise, its fake news.
From Wikipedia:
Israeli political, military and religious leaders have variously described Palestinians as a "cancer" and vermin to be exterminated.
The willingness to readily accept Israel's justifications and propaganda over mass civilian deaths bothers me. All the Israelis need to do is say there were some Hamas in that building/school/hospital/refugee centre/ambulance etc and some gullible people accept it without question no matter how many women, children or elderly are killed/maimed. Eventually they help Israel normalise the ongoing atrocities. It's quite warped.
oh look our president lied and invented 💩
Israel parking their tanks and military equipment 100m from the Irish camp is an implicit threat. They are firing from that position. It makes the camp a Hezbollah target. They wanted the UN force to evacuate. It's all a complex game. I wonder why they picked the Irish camp.
I'd say outside of Israel, the amount of people willing to listen to the IDFs or Israeli government justification is dropping steadily daily. And possibly inside Israel too.
I wonder, one year on, what Hamas' thoughts on how their attack has worked out. Did they expect the ferocity of the Israeli response? Did the think Iran or others would come to their aid? Did they think the international response would bring about a resolution? To this day, I'm dismayed at their actions and baffled as to their thought process.
What is the point of all this glee on whether "my da is bigger than your da" crap. The important point will be that masses of people will die or have their livelihoods ruined regardless of who will have bragging rights afterwards.
Well no. He said Israel had threatened the forces. There is more than one way to threaten something. It is not restricted to a verbal or written threat.
I can say that climate change threatens Tuvalu …… it doesn't mean that "climate change" sent an official letter to the island saying "I'm gonna get ya".
Our Hezbollah supporting president made up a lie that he got an explicit threat and deserves the criticism (ignoring the terrible precedent he has now set for the office)
Ita a good thing IDF is parked next to our troops protecting them from Islamic terrorists, we sure as hell don’t spend enough on supporting our defence forces who just sit there while rockets and missile fly overhead from Lebanon on a daily basis
You really haven't a clue, do you?
I condemn that speech too.
As reported by RTE (posted earlier), Israel told the IDF that Hamas is defeated.
IDF remain in Gaza to ensure Hamas do not regroup. Sounds like "occupation" to me - probably indefinitely.
Remind the readers exactly why are UN and Irish defence forces spending their time sitting out in the desert around these parts.
We've seen that so much on these threads.
Rescue workers feel they are being targeted by Israel. Some people say that's not evidence. The very same people accept Israel bombing a hospital and take the IDF's word there was a command center under it.
When one is so far down the rabbit hole defending indefensible actions of the IDF, it don't think it's possible for them to change their position or even criticize the IDF. They are infallible in their eyes.
