It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
Your claim was the EU could stop the war.
You have busted your own claim.
He is still in power, that's all that counts. His rule looks safe for now. I think what you are reluctant to admit is that he is the better option than possibly having Al Qaeda off shoots in control of Damascus. Some of the most powerful rebel factions in Syria were Jihadists
With this in mind, I am not condoning Assad's rule, but if you are applying your right wing pragmatism consistently you will admit he is the better option than the Jihadist Al nusra( Al Qaeda rebranded) in power.
Well the first part of that is simply wrong - there are any number of regimes based on "cult-like devotion to a leader" that are at least as extreme as Nazi Germany's. The Kims in North Korea, China especially under Mao, but to some extent also with Xi Jin Ping, Pol Pot in Cambodia, Spain's Franco, Mussolini - where to stop? The God-Emperor of Japan? I'd say "cult like following" is more the norm in the most evil regimes than the exception.
As for the second part, what exactly would have been a more successful approach please? (And don't forget to take Chamberlain's efforts into account.)
Sounds like some actually liked the US being a world policeman as a way of escaping making difficult decisions ourselves
Which is hilarious as US gets blamed alot for their old “interventionist” foreign policies in the region
And if Iran blows up Israel's infrastructure with an onslaught of missiles - power plants, oil depots, air bases - then maybe it is Israel that will end up suffering more. Maybe it is Nethanyahoo and his mates who end up hanging from trees.
You see, this can work both ways, and Israel's vaunted air superiority is no longer what it was as bombs can be so easily delivered without manned aircraft.
If Iran leave it at that and be neighbourly it'll be the end of it. They will not though because they are religious fanatics following their God's orders to kill, kill, kill.
I'm not sure it's even about whether the government really believe that or not. I read a detailed analysis by an Iranian exile some time ago (forget who now so I wouldn't know where to look for it, sorry) about the conflict over head scarves after the death of Mahsa Amini.
They said it wasn't about maintaining some extremist religious perfectionism, as it seemed to be to us in the west, but that in fact, much like the Kingdom of Saud, the Iranian regime's only claim to legitimacy is its imposition of religion on the population.
This means it cannot enable any degree of "secularism" without completely losing that legitimacy, leading to the collapse of the whole regime.
Nazi Germany was an extremely unusual entity in its cult like following of and devotion to 'the leader' and every member of the military being required to swear an oath of allegiance to him.
Most wars and conflicts are resolved in other ways - what happened to Nazi Germany in 1943-45 is never a good reference point for anything (i.e. a country being practically razed to the ground and millions left dead before it can be declared defeated).
Israel had been hitting Palestine for the last 45 years. So by your logic, they got decked on Oct 7th??
I don't know about Europe, but this is Ireland, and we have a fairly intimate understanding of imperialism.
In fact-a, it's one of the main reasons that we support the Palestinians. We have been somewhere close to where they are again and again, plantations, genocides, manufactured famines, we've seen it all.
With this in mind, if Iran struck a meeting of senior political and military figures in Tel Aviv which resulted in mass Israeli civilians casualties, would Iran be condemned as being reckless or would Israel be condemned for having a meeting in a building that was in a civilian area. Would those civilians be considered in effect to be human shields?
Well you consider that the plan was a three day war and now they're relying on mopeds and gold buggies to get troops to the front I'd say sanctions do work. It took years of sanctions before Apartheid fell.
This notion that nobody can ever do anything against a hateful evil regime because it will only cause the subjects of that regime to support them even more is frankly bizarre. Posters on here love comparing Israel to the Nazis, yet they also claim that any attempt to remove Nazis from power by, you know, invading Germany and even carpet bomboing its cities would only have led to lots of mini Nazis as a result.
Lucky nobody did that then, and Europe just waited for the Germans to get it out of their system and turn into nice guys.
That was interesting. I think he is wrong though, The EU tends to follow America's lead. If the EU did take action against Israel, the Americans wouldn't react kindly to it. America is the one that ultimately has the power to bring Israel to heel if it was so minded to do so.
He is diminished in that he rules a smaller portion, has an uneasy control in other parts and a good but of that is ruins.
Why won't it happen, Iran has stopped all ships going to Kharg, that's a big deal for them, they consider it a target.
Joe Biden, whether down to his mental impairment or other said that oil infrastructure was being targeted
I would consider targeting the oil infrastructure much more aggressive than demolishing the power plants.
They are going to war with each other, if Iran decides to respond to the coming attack, they will keep going till the threat is stopped if that happens.
It didn't really diminish Assad though. He is still in power and getting friendly with Turkey again. What Israels support did do was help the Jihadists to grow more powerful in Syria
So now you are resorting to downplaying that they supported Jihadists time and again. You on the one hand denounce Jihadists as irreconcilable and incompatible with western values that should be crushed
While at the same time you are excusing Israel working with them when it's suits Israel's interests. With this in mind you will probably excuse Likud the next time it funds islamists in Gaza because sure countries have a right to do whatever is in their interests.
It didn’t stop it but has nearly destroyed their economy and cost them 600,000 lives three years into their three day war
Which apparently is ok for Putin but is a ticking time bomb that might yet bring down his regime
Remedial nonsense.
Did cutting Russia off stop their illegal invasion of Ukraine?
Israeli exports to Europe and China, India, Turkey and mid east are several times that of US
These war can be stopped by us in Europe but we making to much money (guess who is largest destination in eu)
That isn't going to happen though is it?
You are just fantasizing. It's weird.
No real civilians killed I think is measured and they did give some warning? 2 hours I heard , it seems like a measured tit for tat. Israel will retaliate so the ball is in their court
Have key economic infrastructure taken out.
That's the big one. Kill a few thousand Irgc , no one cares, they are martyrs.
Have the lights off for the next 6 months. Mullahs will be hanging from every tree in Iran.
The upcoming will be a message to back down, look after your own society for a change, spend your money on your own people not building tunnels in Gaza and Lebanon, arming psych friends.
The 2nd response will end the regime, most of the Iranian people don't hate Israel, don't hate the west, dint hate women etc.
It helped kill a lot of Jihadis. It helped diminish Assad.
If your enemies are fighting each other with fists. Give them knives .
The whole support thing is blown out of proportion though, Israel couldn't match the money and resources given by private donors in the gulf, nevermind states.
they are going to get decked. Finally.
In what way?
Please be specific?
They were not measured the last day in their actions, the scale of the attack was very significant.
The response will reflect that. It will reflect the reality of now, not what's fair, s'not fair, who hit who first.
It will be purely driven by reality.
Iran has been hitting off Israel for 45 years now, they are going to get decked. Finally.
I know what Assad did. I don't see how that justifies Israel funding Al qaeda rebranded. Volchista was telling us how uniquely evil these people are, but seemingly we can overlook it all if there is a strategic interest involved. This is why Israeli right wing governments have courted Islamists over the years in order to keep the vision of the Likud Charter alive.
Them radioactive isotopes will politely stop on our border sure 👍
They won't hate them more. They'll hate them. They hated Israel before October 7th. Bombing Gaza, Lebanon or Iran is not going to change that. Showering Iran, Hamas, Palestine etc with love, hugs, kisses and aid is not going to change that either. People in the West don't seem to understand this. This isn't a Hollywood movie.
to riff off a Kissinger quote , Iran wins if it doesnt lose. From Iran's perspective they will have China speaking in their ear looking for restraint , the last thing China wants is any major disruption to world trade. It seems the obvious course would be for Iran to stay measured in their actions
What the **** is the EU going to do ? It will take 2 years for them to decide what uniform to wear.
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