Works on the Glenageary Road Upper nearly complete. Disappointed that (a) so many speed ramps on the road (and not smooth to go over even at 30kmh when limit on the road is 50kmh) and (b) cycle lane not yet protected, though I hope this is yet to come.
The new ramps on the road to Stillorgan from Carysfort Ave are similar. They're a big bump even at 30km/h, theres absolutely no way you could go over them at 50km/h regularly (which is the speed limit on the road) without damaging your suspension. The previous ramps on the road were much smaller and more appropriate for the speed limit.
I wonder if this is deliberate policy in DLRCOCO now? Surely its dangerous/misleading having ramps not suited to the speed limit of the road? I've seen quite a few cars stand on their brakes on that road and nearly cause crashes already now.
A speed limit isn't a target.
That "Link" Road is obviously something the powers that be have now decided they should discourage everyone from using as a link from anywhere to anywhere else. Those are the nastiest, least heralded speedramps I've ever encountered. And as for the monster mini-roundabout they've added now… I know the new bus route still goes through, but cannot imagine how the drivers manage without quantum tunnelling. And I write this rant as someone who cycles more than they drive - haven't been up than way on a bike lately, but what theyr'e generating with the wonderful new bike paths looks problematic to me too. I know the biking stuation there before was a joke, but this too-narrow-to-overtake, twisting, turning, yielding overcomplicated weirdness…
I'm quite concerned about the pedestrian lights that are due to come online at Glenageary Road Lower where it joins the roundabout at Sallnoggin. For road users exiting the roundabout these new lights are much too wide apart and too close to the exit to be seen reliably. I forsee a large potential for accidents from drivers who don't spot these lights when coming off this busy roundabout and hit an unfortunate pedestrian who has the green man to cross.
In the real world a road with a 50km/h speed limit will see almost all cars driving at that speed, and expecting the cars around them to drive at that speed.
Driving significantly below indicated speed limits increases the odds of accidents, not reduces them - other cars are far more likely to hit into you when you're not at the expected speed. Thats why in plenty of countries its against the law to drive too far below a speed limit.
If DLRCOCO wants to reduce the speed cars travel at they need to be clear about this and reduce the speed limits on roads. Not to try to achieve a reduction in speed much more dangerously by using unsuitable speed ramps.
Rather than increasing the speed limit, in case idiots crash into someone who happens to be driving legally, why not get idiots off the road?
Being a crap driver needs to become a lot less socially acceptable. We need to make it a lot easier for people to lose their licences.
Sounds like the ramps will do the job so. What kind of regular retraining of drivers do we need to stop them crashing into other drivers who are driving appropriately?
The point is that the speed limit should be realistic, practical, and safe for all using the road. There's two schools and many estates off the road which would make it more appropriate to have a 30km/ h speed limit. Having a 50km/h does nothing but frustrate people. On the sections where the speed bumps are sparse, there will be a tendency to drive close to 50 km/h and then braking to tackle the speed bumps. Better to have a smoother flow across the entire road and ramps that match that limit.
My bigger concern is the lack of protection for the cycle lane so far. I hope its to be installed shortly, but I noted that the new bike lane outside the Shanganagh development in Shankill is unprotected, so it doesn't seem like DLR CC are making this mandatory, which should be the case if they want to increase numbers cycling.
What? The speed limit on that road is currently 50km/h. Nobody is talking about increasing it.
Completely reforming the Irish driver education, testing, and policing system is rather outside DLRCOCO's remit, I'd suspect.
Putting ramps on a road that are too large for the speed limit is not good, or rational, local infrastructure development. It causes unsafe driving (rapid speeding up and slowing down) and unreasonable wear and tear on cars, and on the road itself. It could also lead to expensive legal action against the council if serious damage or an accident occurs and the ramps are proven to be too large for the expected speed of the road and a contributing factor.
If DLRCOCO wants to reduce the speed limit on the road in question to 30km/h then they should have that discussion with the local community and do it if a majority want to do so. Letting the limit remain at 50km/h but building ramps unsuitable for that speed is either deliberate or accidental incompetence, and whoever is responsible should absolutely be getting questioned about it.
Might the below be relevant?
https://www.thejournal.ie/speed-limits-irish-roads-6167921-Sep2023/
That is a regional road, built as such, it is not an estate road and it should have 50Kmh limit and probably no ramps, but if there are ramps then they should be appropriate.
Apologies, didn't cop that.
If they want to reduce speeding, they should install speed bumps that are sharp.. like a Toblerone.
I can tell you, that will solve the problem.
What would make sense is traffic lights and no roundabout or roundabout and no traffic lights. This is the worst of both worlds.
Dunnes put down 'Toblerone' ramps at the entrance to Cornelscourt a few years ago. They would have been the cheapest option but they were replaced with curved ramps after about two weeks. Customer feedback was probably as savage on Dunnes as the ramps were on their cars' suspension. You couldn't go over them at any speed without getting a severe jolt.
Does anyone know why cars are still allowed to park in the bus lane along Rowanbyrne (new road) etc now that the L25 goes along that route?
Is it a case of "I've always parked here and no bus lane is going to stop me"?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/blackrock-locals-risk-jail-in-bus-lane-protest-1.713668
Because drivers.
Because assholes
Seems like it. Surely a case of putting a note in everyone's door saying from next week we're enforcing the bus lane and after fair warning you start ticketing, clamping etc
I wouldn't even give them that, just get to it.
Any idea who's responsible for the enforcement end of it, Gardai/DLR?
Are there bus lane signs up with days and times? Can you enforce the bus lane without signage?
Bus lane is written on the tarmac, not sure about signs
The relevant road signs have to be in place (including hours of operation) for bus lanes to have legal effect.
Presumably it's not operational so, which would answer the question. And here I am besmirching the good people of Rowanbyrn.
Because it is not a bus lane (no signs).
I'm generally in favour of any road changes that improve the experience of public transport users and cyclists but I have to say I am struggling a bit with the bakers Corner works. I assumed a bus lane would be going in so the E2 wouldn't have to sit in traffic there but it looks like ultimately there's just a short section of new cycle lane and new footpaths but given how long the works took, it doesn't really seem that much better. Am I missing something?
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