It seems like a Jewish right wing are determined to start a Middle East war and WWIII . Israel is the equivalent of a Fascist state and it’s time to call them out as such .
And calling their right to defend themselves 'absolute nonsense'. Sure, after the October 7th attack, how dare they try to defend themselves and prevent future attacks, disgusting behaviour.
A lot of barely concealed anti-semitism in here.
The Jews control everything. We need to cease Israel's existence. Won't anyone think of the poor terrorists that got their comeuppance etc.
"We don't hate Jews, only Israel". Sure buddy.
Not only that, another poster said I was creating a straw man for calling out that first sentence as anti semitic. So even posters who won't actually say this themselves are happy to see others saying it.
'Dissolved'? How exactly do you foresee that happening? In an Iranian 'Wipe israel off the map' way? In a Hezbollah 'Destruction of Israel' way? How could these possibly come about without the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives?
The only way there will ever be peace is through a two state solution, that people still can't understand this is mind-blowing.
Posters whose only point of reference is a superficial understanding of the Northern Ireland conflict using that as their entire frame of reference for Israel/Palestine is so terrible it's almost funny.
What about the Sri Lankan civil war versus the Tamil Tigers? How did that work out for the Tigers in the end? The Djiboutian civil war? Angola? I mean, there are any number of such conflicts that have ended with the original regime still in charge, and any measures towards the insurgents have come after they put down their weapons.
The idea that a sensible way to peace is for such a group to be rewarded for a murderous attack on civilians is not borne out by any conflict I know of - except when the insurgents have been able to defeat the regime militarily. And even then, the result is most often a failed state, rather than a new and better one. South Sudan or East Timor might be examples.
But for pity's sake, the repeated inaccurate comparisons with Northern Ireland are evidence only of posters' own inability to look beyond their own back yard to understand the world.
No civilised country is going to back another country that commits genocide Jewish or otherwise. As for a right to defend itself absolute nonsense. Israel is the aggressor pure and simple. The Palestinian people have had their land stolen to give Israel it's existence. Of course they're going to rise up. It's not rocket science. The sooner Israel as a modern nation is dissolved and a proper Palestinian state created the better.
Your displaying a real deep level of racism there with your term "vermin", a bit like the old mowing the grass. It's fine to be horribly racist to Palestinians but seemingly Israelis are the victims here.
I'm not saying they control the world. I'm saying they exert a lot of influence, particularly in USA, which they can rely upon for financing, arms, and no repercussions for their actions.
The 'jewish people secretly rule the world' conspiracy is around 800 years old. If you have to ask 'what is anti-Jewish about it' you are beyond help.
Your argument appears to be along the lines of
"What, how can you say some Nazis were violent and cult like? Here are some links to some historical uprisings in France and Italy by unrelated groups at other times in history which proves that they weren't"
What's anti-Jewish by highlighting the control Jewish people exert?
And Israel is the "Jewish homeland" so of course its relevant.
Irish people can be Jewish. The thread is packed with throwaway anti-jewish comments and anti-jewish tropes, 'the Jews control the world' etc etc
That was directed at Irish people though...
There is plenty of anti Jewish hate these days. The thing is they are used to it. The hate has only increased since now Jews via the state of Israel can fight back. Bibi isn't my favourite politician but he is doing a fine job of removing some of the worst vermin from the ME. Get the Houthis and the Supreme Leader and he will have done humanity a great service.
This thread is just turning into pure racism. As it's directed at Jewish people it's apparently ok though.
*gentile
Amazing how people can use the term 'the Jews' like this in 2024 and no one bats an eyelid.
All part of the plan, gentle potato-heads.
In relation to starting world war 3, when you look at the bombing maps of gaza by Israel it's basically covering the whole area akin to a nuke.
I know I'm being hyperbolic, and that a nuclear bomb is a totally different story but its funny how thousands upon thousands of bombs are seen as a much much lesser evil than a nuke.
and Ireland was traditionally British territory
Israel is about imperialism just like Russia is about imperialism
West Bank was traditionally Israeli territory
Poland was traditionally German territory, Ukraine was traditionally Russian territory, And we're not talking a thousand years ago either
A taste of the sentiment of the time https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/when-ireland-rejected-jewish-orphans-fleeing-nazis-this-man-saved-dozens/amp/
The decent Jews should stand up and condemn what is being done in their name ….. and I know this is happening …. the US government should step up and condemn Netanyahu and his regime ….. Trump won't because he is a lackey but the Democrats should ….. and it is time to denounce this far right regime just like the world did Hitler and Milosevic because Netanyahu is a member of that club …. if anything worse ….. Netanyahu has killed millions of innocents in Palestine, in Lebanon, etc. and has murdered Soleimani, Nasrallah and various Hamas leaders ….. thus ensuring hatred and mistrust for years to come among peoples ….. he uses dimwit henchmen like Trump to do some of his dirty work …. Netanyahu is no one's friend and now is the time to realise this before he leads the duped down a path they do not want to go down …. Milosevic and Hitler must be wondering how and why Netanyahu was able to woo the West while they couldn't !!!
They should ….. most of the world including most Israelis hate this junta ….. they are the new Hitler and new Milosevic all rolled into one ….. they are also the brains behind Trump/MAGA ….. Trump and MAGA will have to come up with new ideas not involving the Iran war when Netanyahu is in the Hague where he belongs …..
Netanyahu has killed Soleimani, Nasrallah, various Hamas leaders, etc. ….. there is a bullet waiting for him and he who lives by the sword dies by the sword ….. hist Love/Hate Nidgelike ways are bound to come back and visit him ….. and the sooner the better ……………
PS: apologies to Nidge for comparing him to that toerag Netanyahu !!!
Of course they will weaken them, but BN is in record saying Israel will not stop until Hamas is wiped out.
That is something that simply can't happen. They don't know every single member of Hamas, so how do they know they have wiped them out?
They can't, and they are doing what the British did in NI with actions like Bloody Sunday, just making a new generation of supporter and the terrorists of the future. If you're a young child and you are having your siblings and parents wiped out, you are very likely to harbour some ill will towards Jews. Or if you are a moderate adult male, and have your kids blown to bits, you'll be asking for a weapon to fight back.
It's a perpetual cycle. The only way it will end is if both sides learn to live together cos the other side ain't going anywhere.
Deleted my post as I mentioned Jewish people when I meant Israel
Israel in its current form …. i.e. Netanyahu's intolerant warmongering far right junta and its MAGA offshoot ….. does 100% deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth ….. anyone who supports Netanyahu supports the new Hitler and the new Hitler's lackey Donald Trump …… and by saying this does not make a person anti-Israel or anti-Jew …. just anti this evil regime …. wipe it out and let a moderate rule Israel and complete the 2 state solution and make peace with the rest …. Iran has a moderate president …. the Iraqis and Syrians will follow suit …… get rid of Netanyahu's malign influence and you solve a lot …..
Netanyahu is the most evil leader in the world ….. Gaza, Lebanon and the brains behind Trump's Iran war …. Netanyahu has too much influence in the US ….. not only Trump's mad boyos but in the mainstream too …. this guy could indeed set in motion the creation of a major worldwide war directly or indirectly ….. he is a Hitler-type, a Milosevic-type with the full support of the West ……..
Reading through this thread has reaffirmed my view that Irish people should stay out of the Israeli-Palestine conflict, regardless of which side one is inclined to support. The whole thing is too fiendishly complex - the things that are happening now are the legacy of fateful decisions that were made decades ago. Irish people will have zero influence over the outcome of the conflict so there's no point stressing over it.
"I'm not jewish but if I were I'd expect that living here is like living in 1930s germany"
A wee bit of an exaggeration I think.
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