Well done on helping the father out.
That's the first time returning for older folk has been mentioned.
I wonder how widespread is that little bit of kindness?
doesn't bring him the money back though so...
😁
exploiting the scam? all you're doing with the photos of lads with multiple bags full is showing how easy it is to use it
No. I'm showing there are some people who love this new inconvenience and how they will profit off of it.
"how easy it is to use".
One of the Aldi's I frequent and have posted about numerous times before about their broken solitary machine. This was this evening, haven't been there in around a week. Guess what?
Ya, it's easy to use, in terms that people don't mind throwing in a few hundred cans and bottles at a time, while inconveniencing people who have regular household waste.
Those 2 must have hogged both machines for at minimum 10 minutes(I was waiting at least 5 minutes).
I agree, they're fantastic for using in the garden.
But, do you bring them around the shop after you've emptied your empties? Do you put your shopping in them on the way out?
Of course you do.
Another way of looking at this scam: a fine for using your recycling bin at home. Which we've been told to do for decades.
Absolutely thrilled with the first manual return recorded here on board!
Step up and take a bow😁
It wasn't me. But the person did it at a Mr Price. Their website says it can be done in all their shops, of which there are about 60. That leaves about another 300 outlets to be identified, Re-Turn says there are "over 350"
"Retailers can choose whether they opt for an RVM or not. It is not compulsory to have a Reverse Vending Machine. All Mr PRICE stores will offer Manual Returns."
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Aye that was me. A lot of the Mr Prices are in same retail park eg as supermarket with an RVM. You might get a hint to go there instead, so suggest saying something like… their machines are busted half the time.
Are those three places 'deprived' areas? 1.8m units in eight months is ~7.5k units/day
Lidl store in Churchfield Cork are the biggest recyclers with 1.8m+ units returned to date, 2nd Tyrrelstown 1.2m units, 3rd Finglas 1.1m units returned since the scheme launched in February.Every Lidl store has two RVMs at costs of €50m+, recently upgrading its machines to meet high demand. Customers are recycling ~24 units per Lidl visit and redeeming ~€4.20 in deposit payouts each time.
Lidl store in Churchfield Cork are the biggest recyclers with 1.8m+ units returned to date,
2nd Tyrrelstown 1.2m units,
3rd Finglas 1.1m units returned since the scheme launched in February.
Every Lidl store has two RVMs at costs of €50m+, recently upgrading its machines to meet high demand.
Customers are recycling ~24 units per Lidl visit and redeeming ~€4.20 in deposit payouts each time.
I used an Aldi machine on Sunday. It suddenly shut down and printed a voucher for €4.15. I then noticed the Machine Full Tell Staff on the display. I think this is the opposite of what was reported on the thread before. Where machines shut down, and people lost their money.
All machines arnt the same though. Some just shyite themselves and say "unavailable".
I was quite surprised at the reports of problems in Lidl stores earlier in the thread.
As a company Lidl has experience in other countries using DRS and also ran a trial here.
Good to see that they have responded and updated the machines.
The use of the word "recycling" is a bit misleading. All customers are doing is returning items.
The article does highlight that Lidl were recycling items collected during their trial in partnership with a supplier but now all these items go to Re-turn and we don't know what happens with them.
With not for profit companies, people often miss the obvious fact that the CEO and other top brass can just over pay themselves with 250k salaries, give gigs to their mates etc.
Dividends aren't really the concern
If you are looking for assurances regarding the future conduct of any company you won't get them here.
No matter what structure a business is operated under the possibility of overpaid staff or cronyism exists.
With a NFP shares can't be traded and no dividends can be paid. That's the legal situation there is no wriggle room.
What structure would you prefer for the company operating DRS in Ireland ?
A lot of nonsense being talked about this scheme.
People in apartments are close to shops and facilities, so no need for large storage areas for lots of cans and plastic bottles.
On the other hand, those living at the bottom of a boreen, twenty miles from the nearest machine have plenty of space for storage and can bring them back during their once-a-month trip to the village.
Good point about nonsense in this thread. Well backed up with examples of nonsense.
And that has to be one of the finest examples of the nonsense. It's either an apartment close to shops or a boreen, with ample storage areas, twenty miles from shops but with a return machine in the village. It's almost laughable that that is the view of life in Ireland today.
There are no boreens in the North East. People live at the end of lanes.
Have they no houses along the road?
The fact of the matter is, some machines are very good, some are ok and some are junk, realistically something needs to be done about outlets with junk machines. I
Has anyone here actually had an argument with a store manager over coupon not printing and that kind of thing?
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/1007/1474003-125m-containers-returned-at-supervalu-centra-drs-points/
Thanks to the scheme, it looks like we are hitting 95% recycling already according to this report.
It is obviously working well.
I had an issue where the machine started updating before it printed out my receipt, went into SuperValu, manager sent someone out, pulled up previous deposit list and printed it off for me, no hassle at all.
Whatever about collection rates the most important point is recycling rates. When these figures are published I will be less critical of this scheme.
Conflating "return" with "recycle" is a bit long in the tooth at this stage.
This is very strange view.
I would be "hogging machine" myself simply because I do have better things to do than taking 5-6 bottles to a machine every time I need something from a shop. Besides I do shopping once a week I am not casual shopper who stroll to the shop every day. So when I come in to machine I usually do have 2 big bags full of returns.
Are you trying to imply there is some DRS etiquette to follow? Like not to return more than X amount of returns at one go or not to spend X amount of time at the machine so I am not not inconveniencing casual shoppers with 5 cans?
You are little confused, we dont know if we are recycling anything because return refuse to disclose what is happening with collected material. It is no brainer with aluminium as this is a valuable material and can be sold anywhere, question is what is happening with collected plastic waste. The only thing we know so far is that it is shipped to Limerick where it is baled and packaged but nobody seems to know where it goes from there.
