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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Riiiight.


    So you are aware Donald Trump was handed everything he has from his rich daddy and never wanted for anything right?


    You are aware he said Taylor Swift endorsed him weeks ago and tried saying how great it was she chose him right?


    Also are you aware Trump said a few weeks ago the VP can’t really do much anyway???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What has Trump done? "I have concepts of a plan?"

    4 year term in the books and he had spent a full year of it golfing. Never even got through Infrastructure Week.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I ask you what policies Pence , trumps vice president, brought to fruition.

    Why are you holding Pence to a lower standard than you expect of Harris ?

    Is it the job of a VP to bring policy to the country or isn't it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The only deflection is coming from you.

    You were the one who earlier seemed to be under the impression about what a VP could do.
    Multiple posters have asked you for examples to support Trump's claim …
    You provided nothing, you have nothing, because the argument has zero foundation and is simply Trump trying to fool the ignorant.

    Meanwhile you ignore that Trump was actually President… why didn't he do the things he said he would do last time?
    Why does he need another shot?
    You had no response.

    You then had a post complaining about billionaires backing Harris, seemingly in complete ignorance of how Elon Musk funds Trump's campaign and Peter Thiel funds JD Vance to the tune of multi millions.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jd-vance-trump-vp-peter-thiel-billionaire/

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2024/07/16/musk-and-thiel-put-their-fortunes-and-networks-to-work-for-trump-and-vance_6686376_13.html

    I expect that will be 'memory holed' now also?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Pence never tried to run as prez, Harris just comes across as lightweight though will be funny if she wins, ill need to order in popcorn for that

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thats not a **** answer to anything. Grow up.

    Poster warned and 1 day forum ban applied

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yes, Pence did try.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pence_2024_presidential_campaign

    Regardless, that doesn't change anything about the constitutional role of a VP and what they can do with the office.
    And when the accusation is coming from a former President, it is even more absurd.
    Why hasn't the Republican majority in the House done anything about the issues Trump wants to sort now?
    He had enough control over them to get them to block the bipartisan border bill.

    But sure, Harris is a lightweight, when your posts demonstrate you have no real understanding of US politics - it is obviously just popcorn fodder to you.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,234 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    …Trump claims he is a billionaire.

    I see a few black belts in straw clutching are out in force today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    she is lightweight, thats clear, she got no votes when she ran before and is only in the position because something not very democratic happened.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So none of the Trump worshippers are prepared to define the constitutional roll of a VP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So zero acknowledgement your previous claim about Pence was completely false?
    Memory holed and onto the next garbage claim.

    Your claims of 'lightweight' don't get any more convincing the more you repeat it when your posts contain basic mistakes about US politics.

    "Something not very democratic happened"
    You mean like what Trump tried to do when he ordered his VP not to certify legitimate general election results?
    Because it is an irrelevent sentence in the context of Harris as VP stepping in for Biden in the internal Democratic candidate selection process.

    When Biden ran in the primaries in 2008, he dropped out after the first state.
    Does that mean Biden "got no votes when he ran before"???

    And Biden beat Trump.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭bog master


    Antifa-haven't heard that word from Trumpites of TFG in quite awhile!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,922 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Oh, I heard they were supporting the rump now and he may well pardon them for Jan 6 when he wins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭bog master




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Infratructure week always upsets the timelines



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,809 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Just seen this pic in Irish Times:

    unnamed (6).jpg

    It appears to be a Trump supporter placard, or equally it could be somebody trolling Trump supporters.

    Mad thing about the US these days is it is impossible to tell!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Pence never tried to run as prez

    ? Except all those times he has? Like this year?

    You’d do well to take a second to cover your asspulls to make sure they’re bound to reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,096 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    You still have your Biden popcorn to get started on ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,053 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    She's a lightweight kicking Trump's sizeable ass.

    What does that make him?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    The RCP average is showing Kamala with a 1.7% average lead over Trump. Biden ended up with a 4.4% average lead over Trump in his narrow victory in 2020. Clinton won the vote by 2.2% in 2016 but lost the Electoral College. So it is all to play for. In the battleground states, Kamala is leading by 0.2%. Biden won these by 3.5%, Clinton by 1.8%

    These averages may not take account of some of the bump that Kamala may get after the recent debate but it does show that she needs to stay on the offensive. One thing in her favour is that her favourability rating is 10% better than Trump's



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    she is a lightwwight with some learned talking points and one sided fact checkers, again she got 0 last time, she isnt an organic leader just a heavily propped up one

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’d be very surprised if quality and respected polls didn’t show a significant jump for Harris towards the end of next week once the latest surveys are crunched and published .

    If they don’t there’s very limited options left for her in such a short time to increase her lead - I don’t see it happening myself - if her lead doesn’t increase essentially it means bias towards her as either a woman, her ethnicity her liberal stances or a combination of all three are preventing her from breaking the ceiling on this race.

    Either that or it’s simply down to “it’s the economy stupid”- but again that’s back to that “faith” in the leader aspect as is the border - it’s possible voters don’t have faith in her - very little she can do at this late stage on that either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    funny of you to complain about fact checking after claiming pence never ran for potus. Your other evidence free claims should be treated with even less seriousness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,622 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,097 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Practically speaking, she isn't kicking Trump's behind because the polls in the states that actually decide anything are as tight as the gnat's proverbial.

    Now, personally speaking, I don't think any politician who did something like Jan 6th has business anywhere near office, but millions of Americans clearly think differently. That is what it is.

    Actually sitting down to watch the whole debate, I don't know if Harris won it that well. Trump was allowed to get the last word on every single topic of discussion. Hot air of the, "If this woman gets into office then it's gonna be very, very bad for this country like you've never seen" kind of course, but I think this is an example of Trump being smarter than he is perceived. Trump knows that these broad, bellicose statements will stick in the memory better than the kind of moderate language that Harris was using even though they were dangerous waffle.

    But Harris was sure to show that she wasn't intimidated by Trump with the handshake thing which I thought was a good and clever move and she eyeballed Trump a lot, which I doubt Trump enjoyed. But she didn't do a whole lot of really pushing back on Trump when he went into a doom-laden rant especially on the last word, which I thought she should have fought to get at least a few of.

    If this were a more conventional era of US politics, or really anything up to 2015, Trump wouldn't even have been on that stage, but he was, so I don't think we can judge who won the debate on the old criteria of who was better spoken and had better data and just a more general air of presidentialness. I think aggression and showing strength is a much bigger thing now. I think Harris needed to show a bit more of that to have made it a knockout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Russia has a huge interest in getting Trump elected. Trump has already indicated that he would cede parts of Ukraine to Russia and would not arm Ukraine to the same extent as Harris. Not sure how Russia does interfere in the election but it has a big self interest in doing so. It is remarkable how much the Republican Party has changed



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,234 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    ”not very democratic”, tell me you’ve no idea what you’re talking about without telling me you’ve no idea what you’re talking about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    For me his “knock-down” line was “why didn’t you do this over the last 3 and a half years?” - it’s a very tough challenge no matter what the topic be it border, the economy, jobs etc

    Harris was the better “speaker” - but it was Trump that landed the most memorable lines- doesn’t matter if it was about eating cats- that’s what the audience remembers - now they’re many people going around town and every time they see an immigrant, they think cat eating - very fcking hard to replace that image with something powerfully positive - very hard



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