Pushing it a bit there. We're not idiots. We know to take care of a voucher if we don't use it immediately. I find it almost comical that people would need to be told the blatantly obvious. How anybody thinks this 'organiser' is offering any valuable advice is beyond me.
Businesses are making money from Gift Vouchers which are never redeemed. And there are vast fortunes abandoned in Dormant Accounts. €20 million a year is taken back by the Lottery, from people who did not collect their winnings within the 90 days.
It won't be any different with these vouchers, it is just human nature, and people with more money than they need. But at least they have gone to the trouble of returning the empties, unlike the less socially responsible cohort who throw them on the street. The Super Rich among that group throw away full ones.
https://www.irishtimes.com/your-money/2024/02/29/are-customers-still-be-ripped-off-over-gift-vouchers-it-seems-so/
"As many as 20 per cent of all the gift vouchers sold in Ireland in any given year went unredeemed – at least in part because of the overly severe terms and conditions imposed by businesses – which meant over €70 million was effectively taken from Irish consumers by Irish businesses in exchange for absolutely nothing."
Voucher plan
Landing spaces
Christ some lads will swallow a brick.
Several months in and I must say that the scheme has been fine for me. Only once have I been at a machine that wasn't working and been delayed.
Great to see recycling rates increase. Sure, there will be individuals inconvenienced, and there will be other contrarions that don't want it to work and won't work it, but overall from a societal point of view, this scheme has been really positive.
It's a Landing Spot.
"Dedicate a ‘landing spot’ for plastic bottles and cans for whenever a drink is consumed, usually at home or in the car."
DRS not s…tt..g a brick.That's the main thing
Up until I read this we just left bottles and cans scattered about the house and garden. I must dedicate a landing spot for all the other packaging, food waste, old newspapers, etc that's spewed around the floors.
What's any more positive about using this scheme over putting recyclables in our recycling bins?
As long as it's a dedicated spot not a space.
If you create a landing spaces it's all going downhill.
For your own sake I really hope you are not genuinely swallowing all this guff the RTE genepooler is feeding you.
Hes not daft. I think its a case of using anything to make this half assed DRS look good. Its very hard work and inevitably verges into the ridiculous. The "thrill and wonderment" of Re-Turn will be a hard one to beat but its entertaining I'll give him that.
…i do see less bottles and cans scattered around the place, but this is a dreadful approach to dealing with the overall problem, its just p1ssing more and more people off, we urgently need to implement policies that brings people along in order to deal with our environmental problems, this is doing the opposite, there will be many negative consequences to this approach, which will probably be overall negative towards combating our environmental problems…..
Well, I've relatives with neighbours who don't have a bin collection, for example. So presumably they dispose of their rubbish by other means.
I've often been walking up at Clermont and seen evidence of fly tipping of what looks to be domestic waste - even the streetview car caught some.
https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0870688,-6.3300538,3a,90y,227.25h,70.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scSrs1NrwjeA7s29Pn02eJQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
I have to say that it's much better in the north where domestic waste is just collected by the council…. which is also why the scheme itself probably is of dubious benefit to recycling levels in the north….
I'm the one who brought this Organiser story to the attention of the thread. There would probably have been no discussion about it otherwise. I was surprised that it provoked such extreme reactions.
If you cycle from Dundalk to Newry on the hard shoulder, you will get a close up view of the rubbish along the road. Much worse in the North.
There's nothing extreme in people's reactions.
People are just pointing out they were already organising our bottles and bringing them to the RVM at the same time as we did our groceries anyway.
I don't think anybody is surprised that an RTE genepooler would turn up on consultancy selling snakeoil at the taxpayers expense.
This was the second post in reaction to it:
To be honest, that's a crock of $#&
That is extreme, and when people say To be honest, it is not a good sign. I am always honest here, without needing to point it out. Then we have this extreme Flight of Fancy, completely detached from reality:
"Now wait a minute. No one mentioned Julie Morgenstern (praise her). Game changer for me.
I used to park my car upstairs until JM (praise her) came up with the idea to park outside. Lads, I cannot tell you how much space this has saved in the house. Well, approx 1 car's worth of space, actually. If landing spaces are her new thing then I am all in.
Oh JM (praise her), bequeath upon us the correct method for storing our empty containers, lest we are inefficient in our storage or woefully inept in the pristine condition our containers must be in. Allow us also, JM (praise her) to learn from Sarah, your organisational representative on earth. May she reign in power and in glory forever and ever, JM."
If its a crock of sh1t it's a crock of ****.
Calling a spade a spade is not extreme.
I asked another poster to list the "few ideas" he was crediting the genepooler with giving us.
I'm stilling waiting. And I'll wait forever. Because he can't list them, because she has given us no "hacks"
Is Tesco the only retailer where you can bring the DRS receipt back to any of their stores to spend it, I notice they have no store specific restriction printed on the receipt?
Now having the receipt being able to be used in any retailer who is part of the scheme would be like moving from the stone age in to the bronze age, perhaps that will happen within the next 10 years 🤔
There's nothing extreme in calling nonsense nonsense. If you brought it up tongue in cheek, then fair enough but anybody who genuinely thinks it was either good advice or necessary advice needs their heads examined. And of course there would have have no discussion on it if you hadn't brought it up. Why would there be?
Im getting used to it now, buying some drinks in bottles as you do wandering around town, dump them in a bin when finished, hope some homeless person finds them and consider it giving to the homeless so dont worry about the extra cost, was that the idea though? lol
Should you not dump the plastic bottles on the street to make it easier for them to find? You don't want them opening themselves up to deadly diseases trawling through cesspit public bins that contain all sorts of crap, literally, like dog crap. Also, by dumping them on the street and whatever else rubbish you have, you're helping to keep street sweepers in employment. Am I doing this right? 😉
I didnt think of that , just leave the empties beside the bin , I dont want to be a litter bug but seems reasonable in this new reality
Leaving beside the bin would be littering.
The wind will blow them around.
Someone posted a pic of a ring around bins in Germany (?) so bottles cans could be left... no need to root through dirty bins.
Return could be putting money into initiatives like that instead of doling out patronage for braindead puff pieces.
That could be your landing spot.
Place them in between shrubs to negate the wind, stick them on the end of branches. You could make it almost a bit like an Easter egg hunt.
Make a little chain of cans with some string, it should help weigh them down a bit. Or place the chain of cans around the bin, to make them even more secure.
Can I get a BS gig like Sarah Reynolds did with Return?
Say you bought one a day for five days every week, 15 cent ones. But allowing four weeks when you are away on your foreign holidays. That would add up to €36 every year. €36.
you shouldnt buy drinks out everyday, thats just throwing money away and not good for your health unless its just water
I posted a pic along with a couple of other contributors to the thread.
Trials are going ahead in Dublin.
It's up to each local authority because they own the bins.
No reason why Re-turn wouldn't sponsor them and maybe have their brand on them.
https://www.thejournal.ie/recycling-trays-trialled-to-discourage-people-going-through-bins-plastic-bottles-6458666-Aug2024/#:~:text=These%20'bottle%20rings'%20are%20brilliant,looking%20for%20cans%20and%20bottles.&text=%E2%80%9COne%20or%20two%20are%20being,to%20see%20if%20they%20work.
Silver Harp and Sligeach,both of you are correct.#2209 and #2210.But council litter wardens will have you - more levies extorted
