I wonder how this will work out for him
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Back on topic re. Enoch. Does the crime (or in this case the contempt) that a person is incarcerated for have any impact on how they are treated inside? From an official point of view I mean? For all his failings and weirdness, he hasn't been a violent person, does that mean he's more likely to be kept away from people who may be in for violent crimes?
What sort of day to day routine does he have I wonder?
it’s absolutely mental to imagine people would have the courtesy to ask Micheal if he minds being called Mike but wouldn’t have the courtesy to call someone samantha rather than Samuel because… why?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/enoch-burke-says-fellow-prisoners-respect-him-and-even-give-him-clothes-and-haircuts-1619766.html
He has “always had an excellent relationship with prisoners in Mountjoy” and was not transferred as claimed in the article, he said. His fellow inmates have respect for him, and he has “a lot of empathy” for them, he said.
On the night of his arrival in the jail, he said, prisoners told him they recognised him from the television, agreed with what he was doing and were “singing their praises”.
One man left him a packet of digestive biscuits, while he has also been gifted clothes, haircuts and a pair of tennis shoes, he said.
“The kindness, the generosity and the goodwill of prisoners towards me never stopped,” he said. It “absolutely was not the case” that he was in danger of getting a beating or that he needed to be placed in a safer environment, he said.
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0430/1446602-enoch-burke/
One thing that struck him and blew him away, he said, was that one prisoner he had never met before or since had left biscuits and popcorn at his cell door.
Mr Burke described it as a nice gesture at the end of a very traumatic day and said things continued in that way from that moment on and the kindness, generosity and goodwill of prisoners never stopped.
He was given tennis shoes and free hair cuts by his fellow prisoners who would often ask him for his sugar because he did not eat sugar.
"I have never had a bad word said to me in Mountjoy and to this day have never had a hand laid on me. I have been treated with goodwill and respect because I have empathy for them."
I get the sugar, but what is the significance of tennis shoes?
Micheal and Mike are both male.
Samantha = woman
Samuel = man
hard to know where the burden of proof lies in a libel case, if you can just say 'ah shur, it was obviously probably true' and get away with it
The Editor of the Sunday Independent has told the High Court he believes it was 'eminently and manifestly possible' that Enoch Burke was annoying other inmates in Mountjoy Prisonhttps://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1786067227613057110
The Editor of the Sunday Independent has told the High Court he believes it was 'eminently and manifestly possible' that Enoch Burke was annoying other inmates in Mountjoy Prison
https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1786067227613057110
what if parents gave their male child the name Samantha at birth. How would you deal with that?
I know a number of nuns who changed their names from their birth name to a man's name. It's been going on in Ireland for years.
Does Burke refuse to call Sr.Michael by the name she identified as ? Should you or I ?
Were they identifying as anything other than female nuns?
Just asking, as it would give your analogy a more relevant context.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with things!
Pedantic response about what I expected. It doesn’t just go for Mike/Micheal Samuel/Samantha— I’d know women who are known by “Phil” or “Bernie” equally I know men known as “Phil” and “Bernie” but that’s not an issue for anyone.
I know they’re name in full is Bernice or Phillis or Phillip & Bernard but I call them what they have asked to be call.
Whether or not someone has a penis or not bares no relevance if they want to be called a different name I will call them that because it’s a matter of having respect for someone. You’re not sticking it to “the man” by being an intolerant dick.
Yes, I know a Sr. John. There must be a religious reason for that?
You mean that there must be a mental illness/ delusion(al) reason for that
so as is a usual type of tactic with these types of people, ignoring most questions and cherry picking the ones they feel they can respond to. I’ll just be ignoring guess and Sandoval or whatever that users name is from now on.
He could be a teacher in Mountjoy
Do any of the clan have their own family? Aren't Christians encouraged to procreate.
They'd have to find head the balls like themselves to procreate with though.
Having went to a religious school in the UK, they don't actually drill religion into you like here. Confirmation and communion are done outside of school time, one morning prayer before school starts. A good school but it was so weird when we came back to have religion so present in school. Time off for communion and confirmation, absolutely bizarre.
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No, here is the reason. Joining the convent was seen as a new life, so many took a new name:
https://anunslife.org/how-to-become-a-nun/what-is-the-reasoning-behind-a-nun-or-sister-choosing-a-religious-name
Anyways, this is a bit off-topic.
A "reason" doesn't negate the mental illness/ delusion that is religious beliefs to some
It would be disrespectful to call a nun on her "old" name if she chose a new name due to her beliefs and new life she has chosen. I think I have that right, right?
Kind of disappointing that some posters are classifying beliefs they don't agree with as mental illnesses to be honest, but ok…
No one is under any obligation to be the same person they were five years or even five minutes ago. Certainly not to you, or to me, or to anyone else. People evolve, people change, people discover and rediscover themselves and new things about themselves all the time. It happens. It's allowed.
Might not work with the Gardai. You can't change your name just like that.
You can legally change your name though - not sure what the process is or what the regualations are (nor are they relevant to the point I made) - but the procedure exists.
Not in 5 minutes though. Try getting on an airplane with a different name.
So he's in gen pop? I would have thought he'd be put in the training unit.
FWIW I don't take sugar in my tea either so does that mean I'm at least as virtuous as Enoch 😎😁
… I don't believe I ever said anything about a time limit (let alone five minutes) or getting on a plane…?
Very strangely specific situation though…
No one is under any obligation to be the same person they were five years or even five minutes ago.
Oh right. And you thought that "being the same person" I specifically meant not changing your name and booking a last-minute minute flight?
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