A new thread for Summer general discussion.
Cloudy start in Greystones. 11.7c atm.
I noticed that weird hue to the sky today too with milky sunshine despite clear skies. Must be those aerosols.
I certainly don't think they get consistently hot summers. But they do get hundreds of hours more sunshine than Ireland. London and Paris are very similar in climate with Paris obviously tapping into continental heat more often I agree. Overall, Paris does have the better climate for sure - but not massively so. It's roughly 1600 vs 1800 sunshine hours when comparing London and Paris in a typical year. London sunshine hours is similar to many northern mainland Europe cities such as Berlin. On a hot summer's day, the max temp in Paris will typically be around 2c warmer than London (Typically that is. I appreciate that Paris sometimes will tap into much higher 850's than London).
The South of France is a different story and cannot be compared. You are at the Mediterranean once you are down there with sea temps of 26 to 28c in summer. Completely different climate. Over 500 miles further south than Paris, so of course they get 30c almost every day in summer.
Best way to describe the London climate in summer is a half way house between the crap we deal with and what Central Europe gets.
I agree with your imaginary line though for where proper summers occur south of it!
Question for the experts. Very much a watery sun in Dublin today. Did the Canadian wildfires impact the sunshine levels in Dublin today?
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We really have been spoiled in Dublin this August another lovely day, dark now though by 9pm.
Watery sun in Sligo today. Got "up" to 17c. Clouds rolling in now ahead of a wet week with 50 or 60mm of rain likely.
Beautiful day in Dublin today, lovely and warm too
the sinking evening sun filling the kitchen with a lovely pink tinge, never seen anything like it with a westerly airflow.
The warmth this past week in East Wicklow was lovely
Very comfortable in shorts and a t shirt,every day hitting 20 or above
Currently still above 20c at 715pm
Always happens when its an Atlantic breeze
This evening is just glorious
Is Sat24 stuck on yesterday's image?
Lovely day today in Meath, plenty of hazy sunshine and warm.
Back in Dublin for a lovely warm breezy Sunday . Sun in and out
In the West for the last few days Thursday the best day but still nice enough to go out every day
Yesterday driving back , very grey and windy .
Got a couple of sea swims which was perfect and water was nice and warm .
Hope that's not it for my summer .
On a positive got all my washing dry on the line .
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Mention earlier of smoke from Canadian wild/forest fires in atmosphere. Probably explains the red moon.
Met E forecasting a max of 19 for next Wed, are they serious? mid 20s more likely even in cloudy conditions
There was a really noticeable orange tinge to the clouds all over us and the UK when I looked at sat24 earlier, I was wondering what it was and assumed it was a glitch on their graphics but I guess that probably explains it
Edit: Actually you can view back 24 hours so you can still see it, maybe more brown/pink than orange but definitely really noticeable
amazing to note, thanks all! Looks brilliant
A colourful or hazy sun/moon is always due to haze, smoke and dust in the atmosphere. In this case it's likely down to the Canadian wildfire smoke as others said above. You are much more likely to see a red moon if you get an unobstructed horizon view as the lower horizon is the most hazy or dusty part of the sky before the moon gets earthshine losing detail and colour. It tends to go through a spectrum of colours from red to orange to yellow to white as it rises higher in the sky. The wildfire smoke looks like aiding that process going on for a lot longer and muting the earthshine.
There was also a very red sunrise this morning for those that had a clearance in the mostly cloudy sky. Image by SaveTheHellfire, not mine as I was asleep for it.
Wildfires in Canada
That'll be the wildfire smoke drifting over from Canada
clear night tonight on the west cork coast. Very Red moon though, anybody know why? Can’t say I’ve actually seen it before! Apologies for the shocking phone camera photos!
went to the coast for a drive tonight. Lord Jesus it was cold down there and so so so grey. Wind would cut you. Lived in London for 10 years as Sryan said it’s not a fair comparison with Dublin and the weather there in summer although far from perfect is miles ahead of the crap we have.
We did reach 25C on 24th June in Dublin (Phoenix Park even had a rounded 27C) but it was disappointingly cloudy for much of it and I will be honest it didn't feel that warm at all. Only did the cloud break up during the late evening hours. One of the coolest feeling "statistical very warm" days I've experienced. I don't blame anyone for forgetting it.
But yeah, 24-25C is about average for the modern July in London. Dublin's average July day typically ranges inbetween 19 and 20C (Dublin Apt 30 year avg is 19.5C). We are lucky to get one day of 25C maybe during the entire summer on the east coast or sometimes the entire country in the cooler summers like the current one or 2015. I'm not massively into temperatures like many - sun and wind play much more of a influence for me in rating - but without a doubt it's significantly warmer there and there's no arguing about it. As you say that's the one thing that sets the two apart. London is hardly world class for summers, in fact it's "very poor" when you compare it to others but that's the thing. You'll almost always find somewhere worse or better than other places. It's all relative and subjective. You can endlessly compare and come to no conclusion. Málaga is very poor for sunshine compared to Yuma, Arizona (the sunniest place on earth) but is still great and nobody would probably ever do such a comparison. Dublin is significantly better for sunshine compared to Torshavn in the Faroe Isles but again nobody would ever do such a comparison and most consider (rightfully so) both terrible.
London typically gets plenty of unsettled weather in the summer, the first half of their summer was mostly crap as well. The main difference that makes their climate so much better though is temperature, just looking at stats for the past month 23 of the past 30 days have reached 25C or higher, I don't think we've had a single day all summer reach that in Dublin.
I lived there for a few years and you could comfortably wear shorts and t-shirt right for nearly half the year, very rarely you get that cold Atlantic wind either so you get the satisfaction of actually having a full summer instead of the few days here and there we usually get.
Back in Dublin.. another grey day today and noticeably darker, the brightness we get even on cloudy days in mid summer is mostly gone now if that makes sense, so really starting to feel more autumnal even ignoring the temperature
August has been really nice in NCD. Today was the first day that felt a bit more autumnal and I did notice last night that it was dark by 9pm.
Huge amount of Canadian wildfire smoke in the air this evening. Will hopefully make for a nice sunset.
I said they had better weather than here but if you think they get consistently sunny hot summers you are wrong. They average 4 days per year where temp goes over 30 degrees. Paris not a huge distance away gets far better and hotter summers for example. South of France gets 30 degrees and more nearly every day.
As I said London gets better summers than us but the way people hype their weather,its far from the reality. Pretty much all of June to mid July this year was abysmal as was the case here.
The reality is if you want good summers draw a line from Paris and south and you will get them. London will get good stretches of weather but you can normally count on one hand the times its over 30 degrees on any given year. That's why Londoners travel to the sun in their droves every summer
And yet, in all my many times to London in summer months I’ve never (and I mean never) been disappointed with the weather we got. Always been notably better than back home. 4 to 6c warmer on an average summer day, and 10 to 15c during any of their hot spells. At 1633 sunshine hours per year compared to Belfast’s 1277 they have almost 400 hours more sunshine. That’s like 33 fully sunny extra days (based on 12 hours per day). Might not be the continent, but it’s significantly different than Ireland
I was in London for a week in July around Wimbledon and it rained every day and was miserable and cold. They get better summers than us but I can assure you it's far from a continental climate! They get good warm spells but the weather there is very hit and miss to be honest
More oppressive f**king grey. Even the nice days are bloody cloudy half the time. At least it's dry for AC/DC, I can hear them practicing from my living room!
So dull. We must have the most dull and grey climate in the world. Never cold, never hot, wasn’t even humid this summer with the cold Atlantic breeze. Summers over before you know it.
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