I wonder how this will work out for him
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One of the children has worked in a Big 4 accountancy practice. Unsure if still there or not. It's not been reported in any media etc. so won't name anything here.
A smaill bit of googling will find posts on LinkedIn from people thanking them for their support whilst working there.
Yeah, I know, I think that's wrong too!
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Ah no. You're grand.
What would be your motivation for wanting to know what others earn?
The motivation is not just what they earn, but what they avoid paying in tax.
It would be interesting to know the structures involved. Businesses don't get to take donations. If a charity is taking donations, it must be registered as a charity, which the school doesn't appear to be.
If the donations aren't coming into to a business or NGO or a charity, then they're coming to a person or persons - and would be taxable.
Why though?
The obvious answer would be "so that they can be prevented from avoiding it, and pay their fair share". But that's just crazy talk.
Compelling reasons not to put everyone’s income/tax online for everyone to view.
For future reference, tax avoidance is legal (for instance two of the simplest ways to do this are, pay into a pension, and submit qualifying medical/dental expenses), tax evasion is not.
Would you two know the difference if you were nosing through your neighbour’s returns?
The fairness of our tax bands is debatable, but the Government decide on the tax rate, and the share you pay on your income. You looking up someone else’s tax accounts isn’t going to change the rate at which they pay tax on income.
In relation to the Burke’s, I have no idea of their income, or where it comes from, nor their expenditure. Something tells me they do not spend a lot on luxuries, and may well have incomes which we are not aware of, but Revenue are. If they are getting funds from outside the State, that should be taxed of course, but any opinion on their tax status is speculation. My own guess would be, they would be loathe to be caught stealing/committing fraud.
My own guess would be, they would be loathe to be caught stealing/committing fraud.
And yet, there was the whole thing with NUIG about the funds from the Christian Society being misused by the Burkes.
I know they're not Catholic, so I wonder do they have the same 10 commandments?
No. Just the one. Honour thy mother and father.
One week to go before W.H.S. new school term re-opening.
Wonder if he's dusting off his satchel.
wonder if his cell is being readied for him
He will absolutely categorically be there on the 1st day.
Why hasn't that gobshite been sacked yet?
I certainly wouldn't be a fan of everyone and anyone looking at my income.
He has his favourite plastic flask with Charlton Heston as Moses at the ready.
They're very big on wage transparency in the Nordic countries.
In Sweden, as matter of principle, all government documents are publicly accessible, with relatively limited exceptions. This has been so since the 18th century. Tax returns are considered public documents once the tax authority has finalised them so, except for the current year, all tax returns of all Swedish residents are publicly available.
Norway — pretty much the same deal.
Finland came to this a bit later, but they've had a similar system since some time in, I think, the 1950s.
GDPR has reined this in a bit, but only a bit. You can object to the disclosure of your income (or any other information realted to you held in a public document) on grounds relating to their own or your relatives’ safety, health, ability to practice a profession or carry out work or selected other grounds, but you have to give a reasoned objection that refers to your particular circumstances. ("I don't agree in principle with the public dissemination of information about my income" doesn't cut it.) Each application is considered on a case-by-case basis. And the fact that you have applied for an exemption is itself information in a public document, and is publicly accessible.
Studies suggest that the system, on the whole, benefits workers. It's easy to know, rather than merely suspect, that you are underpaid relative to your colleagues, so employers have to be able to justify this. It's part of the reason why the Nordic countries have greater pay equity in general, and in particular have a lower gender pay gap that most other countries.
Again, I think this is absolutely ridiculous. I shouldn't know how much my colleague earns, nor them me. Employers shouldn't have to pay the same amount for people doing the same job. It should be merit based. Some people are naturally better at some jobs than others and deserve to be rewarded for it, without the inevitable animosity it would cause if lesser productive colleagues were earning less than those more productive.
Based on the theory that they have most likely have the motive and definitely the funds.
Hear he was in castlebar this morning buying a new suit and tie for the school year ahead.
All silence and secrecy leads to is a way to keep wages down across the board.
I work in theatre, around 2018 all freelance crew came together and decided to set their rates as a group. It worked. But it only worked as people were open about how much work and what fee they had been invoicing.
Like a rising tide, everybody's wages went up. Crew rates went from as little as €12.50ph to €20ph, and that's on a four hour minimum call.
As a long term follower of this thread and an occasional poster I look forward to the day this sorry saga ends.
Some sort of conclusion must eventually come and the sooner the better.
But again, if someone can negotiate a better wage for themselves, or has the ability to prove they are more productive, they shouldn't be hampered by those who can't.
Full transparency of wages would mean that everyone would feel they should be paid the same regardless of ability.
Yeah...? Bringing people out of poverty, how dreadful?
That is absolutely not what I said, and the tone of your response is unnecessarily argumentative as well as misrepresentative.
I think people should be paid fairly for their work. Some people deserve to be paid more than others and should have a right for their finances to be private.
You need to look at your own style of posting before accusing anyone of being unnecessarily argumentative.
People should talk more openly and honestly about their pay.
If they ask for a raise on the back of that discussion and are refused, they might find out their not working hard enough to deserve it, or that they're not appreciated in that company and they can look elsewhere.
On the other hand, an employer may not have kept up with industry rates unknowingly and adjust the employee's pay to reflect it. It happened to me years ago when I worked in a bar. We were having an after hours pint with some other barmen from local pubs, and we found out we were being underpaid €50/60 a week compared to them. Someone told the boss the next day, and we were all given raises within a couple of weeks to match the other pubs.
Enoch Burke is going to wake up one day and realise to himself that he just wasted some of the best years of his life hanging around outside a school.
Then, he'll get dressed and go hang around outside a school.
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