Dont zero graze myself ,but cant understand why it is seen as a cause for tb as compared to silage bales or pit
Fresh badger Shiite or piss mixed with grass possibly more dangerous than what comes out of fermented silage
Lad says cows can't pick the best bits compared to grazing, lad was saying to me. Secondly more grass from far away been consumed by the cow
JUst my opinion but I think it may have to do with the increase in deer population.we used never have them around here but sightings have become a common occurrences and they very mobile and travell quickly
Many reasons why tb has got worse in the last couple of years but a lot of it is occurring inside the farm gate and can be reduced if many farmers changed things a little you would reduce your risk big time
Feeding calves in fields turn the troughs upside-down when calves have eat
Clean out water troughs regularly
Reduce overcrowding in sheds in winter
Provide enough grass to cows and calves/yearlings all summer if you can't do that their is a cattle mart in every town in Ireland to solve the problem I am all the time looking at hungry cattle which in turn will lick the ditches and pick up every bug and these hungry animals have low immune systems and for some strange reason these herds keep going down with tb
Their are many other things like infected wildlife, dept not overly interested in solving the problem vets making a living out of it, possibly zero grazing,some farmers in denial about the fact that their is an infection in their herd and just seem to have 1 aim which is to get a clear test and bury their heads in the sand again and go back doing the same as they always did
you’re right the population is gone mad. The problem is they make it too hard to get a license etc. to hunt deer. I have 2 guns, neither deer caliber, I can easily take out a fox / rabbit / crow to 200m but need to do a 2 day course to hit a deer which is a far larger target. Like a lot of things the hunting population is an ageing / dying one and they ensure to put enough obstacles in the way for new people to get into it.
This appeared today. I find it depressing to be putting winter grazing plans ito action when we're (in my mind) in still med summer..
In any case, how many use these targets and work by them? We don't extend rotation until mid September hitting about 25 days by then. We can be quiet a bit off thses targets but find we hold much better regrowth from shorter rotationswhen added to grazing better quality, I reckon is just as viable a system. Any views?
I'm taking out some paddocks atm, it will prob get me in the long run but silage is tight
Just catching up on pervious posts in relation to building work without planning. Is this a ticking time bomb? with the ever increasing storage capacity requirements are ppl taking the risk to avoid objectors.
Even ppl who are actively engaged by the dairy industry and endorsed to promote our green sustainable image; are flaunting the rules with zero planning.
Comical, considering said person has aspirations to progress in the IFA.
last few years I’ve been following graise consulting autumn plan ….makes sense in so many ways
https://x.com/graiseconsult1/status/1824178283111747699?s=46&t=NzjB-6XEwOr9bmgv7m2wYA
On slurry and storage. I heard someone on podcast say a separate tank will be needed for digestate returned from an AD plant and that tank would have to be covered but not by slats. The separate tank made sense but not the covered bit as the gas would already be gone from the spent digestate.
What rules are being flaunted by zero grazing?
He got the wording/spelling corrected before you replied
I find it hard to take any advice/targets seriously when the massive uncertainty of weather and growth rates are ignored.
The odd titbit is useful from the grass newsletter and I always scan thru it but my eyes gloss over when it drifts into the figures they expect from their idea of the “model farmer” and his “typical 100 cow herd”
Moved away from these targets to shorter rotations here and a lower farm cover aswell.
But we are always finished grazing here by the 1st week of November so never make much sense for us to have a huge amount of grass on the farm by the 1st of October
Here on a mixed farm, you have to use experience, when farming. If the weather is good you should graze. Closing early and late spring doesn't work here. I feed what I have in Autumn and the cows are left out for a few hours as they calf. But silage is nearly always fed till May day.
Ye these dates of having first rotation done by early april are an annoyance when land is saturated. We all know our own farms, mine loves a drought. Plan is when cows go out they hopefully aren't coming back in til mid or late October
Which one of these faults did you get locked up on? The department are a joke. They can leave you looking at reactors for a month after a failed test but can send you out a half inch of paper work to look at within 2 of their working days. Where only keeping people in employment. This dumping milk is another joke. Do the Co op’s do a milk recall when you get the results of the tb blood result's back? Nothing but phone calls and letters you get afterwards. When you get out the calculator the money you get back for reactors is a slap on the face.
Absolutely and we'll said .the **** that's been spouted on here the last few days makes the resident troll look half normal. The department do not care about eradicating tb plain and simple do not pass go on that statement. There's no possible way to make a reasonable argument against them not wanting it gone. If they wanted to rid the country of tb it would have been done 40 +years ago ....and if eradicating didn't work we would all be vaccinating for it . There's no restrictions on people leaving the country as an export and 90%of the country was vaccinated for tb at some point.
The way we look at it is we have to feed ration and probaly silage anyway so its really only usually a case of when you going to feed it .I thing I hate is letting them out at night and bringing them back in .pointless work but I do my level best to get them out every day
Iagreewith the ration and silage point ,but the extra work to get grass into cows in spring is not pointless work.its definitely thankless work but it's nevertheless necessary if your going to knock milk out of cow's (in a half normal year)
I agree
I put a good bit of work in to it here and can definitely see the benefits of it after this year. They didn’t get out as much in the spring and it really hampered milk production. Now I probably should have more better quality silage on hand but it still shows the benefit of spring grass if the weather is favourable
U save alot on silage getting them out early and also their health and feet. Triggers grass growth also
Factory lesion showed up on purchased in animal I never had a reactor before dept tell me that since that animal was purchased by me the other herd had a big no of reactors in comrade animals in that herd these things happen nothing I can do about it but I've had a lot of hassle with having to do 4 month test with a couple of years because of a number of dairy herds near me that constantly go down with tb very obvious animal welfare issues and yet they do nothing to improve their chances of not going down with tb again and by some posters reactions here it's obvious we're all in for a lot more tb going forward I spoke to a lad lately that had the bug in his herd he blamed just about everyone he could think of as to why his animals had tb from the meat factory,the vets, neighbours, contractors brought it in their machinery, wildlife, ai company etc and at the same time was boasting about the live valuation he got, milk compensation he got etc and was now regretting that more cows didn't go as he had lots of heifers coming in but I'll probably be criticised for telling the truth
What’s the beer like to night with the lads on the bar stool. I have yet to meet any farmer that is happy to have TB in their herd and also wake up there is no financial gain out of TB and that is a fact.
WWe All should have nearly everything better no matter what setups we have but once you're trying and improving each year (apart from this year. This year can go fook itself). Things will come together eventually..... or at least that's what I'm banking on.... 35 years later 😄😁
He got no compensation for his milk ...none zilch Nada zero no reddies. Etc etc he's been taking the mick out of you
It's called monthly income supplement for dairy herds which obviously he called milk compensation also for winter months you can get fodder compensation please have your facts correct
I am only quoting what some people who cannot add talk about on a daily basis
I’m sure this hypothetical figure was delighted with the €55 per cow a month they got, seems like a no brainer to want more cows to go down. Good God.
