They have great public transport, mature areas, and good schools.
I know 'good value' and 'affordability' is subjective.
You would get a 3-bed semi in either area with a big garden and lots of potential for sub 450k in either area.
Most of Clontarf (including Dollymount) is by the coast, or a short walk to it. And easier to get about on bike in Clontarf along the coast. That's the area of actual Clontarf, not the areas that are down as Clontarf political wards, which takes in other parishes. And a lot of it is by St Anne's. And the parts that are not are beside Killester… which has shops.
What are these 'most of Clontarf' areas that are a lengthy walk from the sea?
What shops does Donnycarney or Beaumont have that Clontarf does not?
If you're doing a big shop, preference will probably be to drive in any case. Our for a leisure stroll, jog or cycle preference will be to be close to the leisure \ scenic area.
Im looking at a house in Cromcastle Drive in Kilmore, which is near Beaumont which is near Artane :-) Is this area generally okay? Spoke to a neighbour who said the road is mostly quiet bar a few families who are troubled, but mostly fine. Anyone have inside info?
Cromcastle is definitely Coolock.
To be fair a lot of that area has changed in recent years, and they are solid houses with easy access to city centre.
In my opinion, you are much better off with a house there than buying an apartment.
So I remember looking at houses back in 2006/07 in the estate that is right beside Beaumont Hospital. They used to sell for circa 450k~550K for a 3/4 bed. 17 years later, I am actually surprised that houses are just reaching those prices based on the price register.
I wonder what happened just after 2006/2007 that might have had an impact on house prices…….. 🤔 My parents house was valued at stupid money at that point in time & is not now back up to those levels despite being in a very good location for access to the city centre.
My mom's house in Artane was valued at 600k in 2007. By 2012, it had fallen to about 250k, and it's currently valued at at least 600k.
It's worth nothing that 600k in 2007 would be about 750k today (https://visual.cso.ie/?body=entity/cpicalculator). This should stand as a testimony to just how wild the property market was during the Celtic Tiger years. It's also worth noting that most of that inflation occurred in the last 4 years due to the lockdowns and associated mental levels of money-printing.
My parents is in Artane too. Valued at €700 in 2006 (had to get a revaluation for insurance/mortgage due to work done on the house). Don't know exactly what the value fell to but houses in the area went for €260k-ish in the early 2010's.
Recently house sold around the corner that would be comparable for about €640 but ones with no extension done are still around €560 (having had a quick look at the property price register).
Most houses where my mom is are going for around 600, maybe 550 if they are in need of work. It is a very nice area, so I can understand why people would want to live there, but it's another example of a rather average part of Dublin that is now well outside the means of the average earner.
It's generally ok but I would recommend looking around the other side of Kilmore as it is more settled and quieter. The only downside is they're building a large apartment/housing complex there at the minute.
I take it you've never been to Beaumont then, considering there's barely any corpo houses. My next door neighbour bought the house when it was built in the late 50's/early 60's. It's always been private.
Well I know what happened after 2007/2008. But all I am trying to get at is, prices in a lot of mature areas haven’t gone up much if you zoom out in the last 20 years.
Government subsidies have just pushed up prices for newer houses regardless of where it is being built.
But that is everywhere that had a massive drop in the prices in 2008 with a lot only really getting out of the negative equity and into the same levels they were when last up for sale 20 years ago. I know we hear a lot about property prices going up but while they were, it was taking a long time.
Newer houses do have some benefits if you're a first time buyer but not so much if you're not. And new houses have always been at a premium because there is no work to be done & they often have quite good finishes to them. Plus in the past 10 years they've had heat pumps and some having solar panels included which would add that extra.
I just looked up the property price register and what you are saying doesn't match up. I thought my local knowledge was off based on what you are saying but I am not seeing what you claim.
I think there was only one sale over 600k in 2024 and only a few in the >500k range.
There is a vast difference to the cost of properties into Artane due to the sizes and age and importantly there are very different areas in Artane. Brookwood has much larger properties compared to the parts of Artane close to Harmonstown for example
Yeah sure new builds have advantages, but I know people aren’t giving any thoughts to Location, Location, Location.
House prices will go up or down over time, but when subsides are removed from new builds will they stand up over time ?
Just because someone bust a house in an area doesn't meant they want to live there. In a place like Beaumont its is because they have settled for living there as they can't afford anywhere better and couldn't tolerate a worse area.
My mother's house is in Bookwood, specifically Brookwood Avenue:
https://propertypriceregisterireland.com/search/address/brookwood_ave/
I think that's most decisions in life :/
I quite like Beaumont. It's quiet, settled, lovely schools and has a cracking Japanese takeaway down on Collins avenue. I had the choice of St Pappins in Glasnevin, some parts of Drumcondra and Beaumont and I honestly think it was the best option despite being cheaper than the others.
Beaumont is really a mix of big and smaller houses. Like Glasnevin, Whitehall, Santry and Artane.
All are actually pretty popular with people who grew up in the areas and for people who like living inside the M50. It's not Clontarf, but the houses there can be fairly big.
I don't think what you said is valid. The houses which seemed to be priced 500k + are big, so if that's important to someone, I could see the attractiveness as compared to a tiny property elsewhere.
https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/semi-detached-house-57-beaumont-road-beaumont-dublin-9/5677073
That house is not a good reference of Beaumont but yes many are good size
A lot of north siders on this thread. Not much conversation on Walkinstown.
How long would it take to walk to Walkinstown from town?
Its 6.8km stree so depends on how fast you walk I'd say an hour for the average person.
Someone who moved out to Swords said the lack of outdoor green spaces put them off buying there.
Ah no,
Cant be that much..
I used to walk home from town years ago after a night out due to no taxis. Before the late link's were introduced!
If I didn't get one on the Crumlin Road I had to walk all the way and I lived past the Cherry Tree.
I'm going 5k...although starting at the olympia lol!
So your 2 houses are private, good work
Cool, I'd love you to show me the "corpo houses wall to wall" in Beaumont then.
The above poster is a troll
Don't think so as he is right there are barely any corporation properties in Beaumont and there are more in Clontarf. The only corporation properties I know of in Beaumont are the old folks properties. Clontarf has at least one relatively large estate as does Howth
The small mindness of caring about something like that who cares.