The Gardai for a faulty machine? I'm guessing your new to the country. We can't even find a Gard for a lot of violent crime. A busted return machine won't be high up on their list of prioroties.
Fair play on absolutely sucking the life completely out of me in 3 sentences.
Bought my 8 pack bank holiday beers yesterday and no deposit charged at the till as it was old stock non barcoded cans.
Is there much of that still going on I wonder or is my local offie the Wild West.
They could be buying their booze from the North……
Quick, call the Council as they are the enforcers!!! That shop has committed a crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are pubs in my town where every bottle sold has a UK label. Seems to be no rules worth following there. But mention Re-Turn accepting crushed containers you get read the riot act about fraud with containers from NI. The truth is a lot of regulation / enforcement in this country is theatre when it suits.
Yes we'll oversee the rules we post on the Re-Turn website - we promise! Now just leave us alone to hoard deposits 🤣
People who pay criminals for illegal TV have no fear of prosecution. In fact they parade their lawbreaking with pride. If the dodgy shops and their customers don't go boasting on the internet, they could get away with it. But it's early days yet, and there could be Mystery Shoppers going round gathering evidence.
Holiday Weekend probably a good time to shift old stock.
Safe enough most likely no inspections.
There are still some cans of Heineken at home with no barcode at all. I don't recall when they were bought but BB date is 10/24.
Pubs or off licences selling stock without the duty paid are risking a run in with Revenue and like rust they never sleep.
We hear on the TV and Radio every day that TV license inspectors are out and about. I wonder if Revenue officers still go around to pubs. It used to be common in the UK, in fact my Great Gandfather was one, and was present at the very first run of Glenfiddich whisky.
I ordered a Jameson in a pub in Dublin a few years back. Not only did I doubt it was Jameson, I'm not convinced it was even whiskey. That sort of practice is what revenue officers are meant to Police, but like everything in Ireland, one wonders does it actually happen.
…was just about to say this, i wonder do such establishments do a deal on booze and dodgy tv packages, sounds like big money maker to me, maybe i should investigate, maybe ive found a niche in the market……
Id well believe it. Friend of my fathers managed big hotel bars in Letterkenny. After a function they would gather up unfinished spirits to refill the optics. Most people have no idea what goes on. Just because you pay over the odds doesn't mean you get what you pay for.
RTE with a big guaranteed bail out of 725m to be topped up if licence fees dont cover it after their slush fund antics. You would wonder why pay the licence fee after tax when it will be added to anyway with tax funds.
Re-Turn is just DRS with the Irish twist added. A round the corner gombeen half job building up its own slush fund similar to RTE.
Speaking of RTE:
It has to be foreign stock. Whatever about dodgy shops and pubs, I doubt if any local manufacturers or wholesalers are sending out non logo stock. They all agreed to end that by mid March.
"Agreed", but if there is no enforcement, then who is going to make them?
Edit:
Actually, who agreed? The chairman of Tesco Ireland maybe, but lots of manufacturers and vendors have been against this from the outset.
Drinks Industry Ireland were up to speed with the time line back last October. But maybe the likes of Diageo or Coca Cola decided to go rogue?
https://www.drinksindustryireland.ie/getting-to-grips-with-the-drs-scheme/
"With the Deposit and Re-Turn scheme set to go live on 1 February, 2024, producers and retailers will have a grace period to ensure all bottles and cans comply with the correct labelling standards. From 16 March 2024 producers will no longer be able to sell non Re-turn stock and from 1 June 2024 retailers must only sell Re-turn stock. This transitional period will allow businesses to phase out any existing inventory of beverage containers that do not bear the required logo and price information."
Thats nice of them. And if you do not sell your stock in that time, what then? Landfill?
Tesco were well clued up. They were selling off 2 litres of Ballygowan sparking for 30 cents back in February. I heard that businesses operate on a Just in Time system these days. To stop shelf space being taken up by stock which is not going to sell.
"JIT is an inventory management method that focuses on keeping as little inventory on hand as possible. Instead of stockpiling products and raw materials, you order small shipments to replace inventory as you forecast and fulfill orders.
19 Jun 2024"
Thats fine for Tesco but some small beer producers only do 2 or 3 runs in a year, which doesn't answer my question.
It could also be stock purchased before the DRS if it was a very niche beer with low sale volumes
…and covid revealed how truly vulnerable jit is, and jit thinking…..
Brexit did similar on a slightly smaller scale.
Suited me down to the ground! Cans now deposited into my recycle bin 5 yards outside my back door rather than rattling around the boot in bags.
Good for you Dave.
I doubt much stock would go to landfill.
They had plenty of time to sell it off.
Any left over could be gifted to staff or friends/family.
The thought of beer being dumped would drive you to drink 🍻 🙂
Thats really helpful. Thank you so much!
Happy to help.
Cheers 🍻 🥂.
Lidl Donegal Town. Shop rammed. Staff flat out. Super stuff. Liking the wee sign saying feck off with your containers into your recycle wheelie bin to be charged twice to save the environment. I have a warm fuzzy feeling inside! Yay for a better tomorrow!
Must be the post Bank Holiday Blues! Like please don't recycle during this busy time says the esteemed Minister of ReTango, where one must do a merry dance to get your money back!
Six months on, and the number of cans and bottles coming back is still going up. The effect of retailers running down old stock can clearly be seen in the first four months. And the effect of only logo stock being allowed on sale in June and July. No non logo stock should be been supplied to retailers after 16 March.
https://re-turn.ie/irelands-deposit-return-scheme-marks-six-months-in-operation/
Daily Average of Drinks Containers returned in Months:
69,000 containers a day in February 670,000 containers a day in March 1.7 million containers a day in April 2.5 million containers a day in May 3 million containers a day in June 3.2 million containers a day in July
