The terrace thing is not an issue
There will be room for 30,000 spectators when it first opens, rather than 34,500. Rather than build a 34,500 capacity stadium with 26,000 seats and 8,500 standing, the plan is to initially make it all-seater. However, the plan is to increase the capacity after the Euro 2028 soccer tournament.
Transport is an issue everywhere, but Belfast has a substantial fleet of buses than can run to parking locations. How did 83,000 people get parked for the All Ireland final?
That should be directed to threeball. He's the one linking a reasons not to build based on upsetting unionists.
Breathtaking negativity as usual. Better to be standing in the rain in the rain than sitting under cover eh.
Never said its for the bigots. It's for nationalists and moderate unionists and everyone in between .
Your anger towards the project is remarkable. Not sure how you'll cope when construction begins.
Just another 10 million to repurpose the stadium after the Euros in that case. Shur what harm. Better to spend it on that than grassroots clubs in Antrim.
Not anger, just amazed by the idiocy of the whole thing.
It is not going to cost 10 million, the stadium is designed with sections like this.
A capital budget is not available to spent on clubs in Antrim and why should Ulster money only be spent in Antrim anyway?
I am aware of the plan to change the stadium after the Euros, I was responding to the claim that "the extra comfort of an all seater will attract extra supporters". It's just another example of the pros trotted out for the stadium not being based on reality.
83,000 people didn't have to get parked for the All Ireland final. People travel various ways to Croke Park, car, bus (both scheduled service and charter), Luas, train or a combination of those. The stadium is within walking distance of a main train and bus station and many city bus routes plus both Luas lines drop people within walking distance. Where is there parking for thousands of cars from which to run these buses?
Breathtaking niavety as usual. Terraces and roofs are not mutually exclusive. And the location is terrible and isn't going to attract people.
Not believing that spending £300m on a stadium to host one game a year is a good idea is not negativity and believing it isn’t some kind of virtue.
Is the terracing for casement is it fixed longterm or is it going to be rail terracing?
It's gonna be built. You'll have to get over that fact.
That is blatantly not a fact.
The stadium as currently has planning permission might be built but the chances of that are already low and diminish by the day. If the Euros gets ruled out, another, much smaller, version might eventually get built. No stadium getting built is also a possibility.
Its amazing the energy some people put into negatively opposing things. I know you hope nothing is built but that sort of anti-progress mentality has held the north back for decades. But Labour will get it done.
Nobody is opposing anything. The actual facts of the situation are that the stadium as designed will cost over £300m and will be filled at best a couple of times a year, events which already happen elsewhere. It will also have minimal spinoff economic benefits due to being situated between houses and a motorway on the edge of the city.
There are dozens of more worthwhile projects which could happen around NI, particularly given it's infrastructure deficit and the infrastructure it does have is mostly substandard. And it's not even the case that there is an allocation available only for Casement which can't be used for something else. There is no funds and they are begging the UK and Irish governments for the money, they'd have a much stronger case for something which would generate economic activity and returns.
I don't even see it benefiting the GAA. The Ulster final in Clones (or any big game really) is special because it takes over the town and generates a great atmosphere before and after the game when people can socialise. It won't even help Antrim GAA, they wont build a following playing in an empty stadium. The stadium will also struggle to cover its operating costs, look at the issues of PUC which has a couple of big games per year and has 30% more capacity to attract stadium tour acts.
Yeah...don't do it...do something else...what aboutery..negative negative, etc etc etc.
I see the Local reps in Monaghan are looking for 10 Million to upgrade clones. Considering construction costs at the moment that would only cover the proposed new entrance on the town side of the stadium i would say.
https://www.northernsound.ie/news/calls-to-prioritise-funding-for-st-tiernachs-park-241402
So accordding to various media today is the day for casement. Hopefully the announce the funding.
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No bad harm.
No need for another white elephant.
Build something with a capacity more suited to Antrim and Ulster GAA.
No surprise. In the week where the Finance Minister says the NI Executive has a several hundred million £ deficit, they were not going to get a couple of hundred million £ for a stadium that will hardly even get used.
Better for the GAA too to not have the millstone around it's neck.
The interesting part will be seeing where gets the games instead.
Heather Humpreys is already on the phone id say looking for that 50 million for clones
The games will just be added to the Dublin schedule.
The idea they would be reallocated to PUC in Cork, which would have a seated capacity of only about 22,000, is fanciful.
Never mind the seating capacity it's not anywhere near the standard UEFA require.
The games will be distributed around the UK.
I don't think you could just move them to Dublin, logistically it may be difficult.
Pretty sure I read a few months back that a UEFA source said the backup plan if Casement wasn't available that the games that were going to be in the North would be split among Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales.
Antrim may not need capacity, but Ulster GAA needs something bigger than the likes of the Athletic grounds, which may well be more or less full for several league games this season.
Yes it does. Disappointing for NI not to get the Euros and the Tories are largely to blame for not progressing it. The GAA will still benefit though as it will almost certainly be built.
Clones
They won't be added to Dublin. It will almost certainly mean another English stadium will be added.
I think Ulster people are daft to want Clones over Belfast but it seems to be what they want so might as well build a small but high quality stadium in Belfast. Something like Ravenhill or Thomond Park that other small counties can use as a template for a modern GAA stadium.
Media reports are that the Belfast games will be divided up between the other host venues with the Aviva getting 1 of the games.
Clones is a great place to watch a game and its easier to get to for most people in the ulster counties.
The GAA really need to get some sort of template for any stadium rebuilds. Maybe take the plans of the new Louth Stadium or Tullamore and just roll that out for county ground redevlopment like they way we did housing and schools in the 50s.
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