No it's not and it will not be considered inflationary by the CSO. It's a deposit. If I hire from a hire company I pay a deposit for to return the item when I return the item my deposit is refunded I cannot write the deposit off against tax . It's similar with DRS its not a price increase, it's not a tax it's a deposit.
We had all this hooh ha with the smoking ban and the plastic bag tax. A cohort believed the sky was falling in. Of course there are some teething issues most will be sorted over the next couple of months
The machine can physically only hold a bag of recyclables or two. The truck is not calling every time a bag fills. Of course the staff empty it
Glad you put that caveat in there to clarify your comment.
Your obviously not bothered about a lot of producers using the opportunity to ramp up the base cost of the product or the additional fee that will surely be added or has already been added to your bin charges.
Never mind the oceans of issues that have been outlined on this thread.
It's worked for you because you are getting your money back. Great stuff.
No but the point is that they don't go rooting through the bins anymore, 99% of Berliners don't put bottles/cans in the bin. If the tray is full they go on the ground beside it. It's been happening for the last 2 decades since they introduced their scheme in 2003.
Tetra Pack is made of 14% plastic sheets, 5% aluminium, 6% from a bio-plastic cap and 75% cardboard.
It is recyclable but it is a complicated process.
https://www.fiftyshadesgreener.ie/blog/the-very-questionable-sustainability-of-tetra-pak
Probably one of the least recyclables materials around
Typically the truck driver never even sees the RVM.
Those bins are left in the yard on collection day.
The truck drives in and empties them just like your wheelie bin.
There is no handling, you are the last person to touch the bottle/can.
Way down the scale compared to glass, aluminium or even plastic.
It's all covered in the link I posted.
The deposit has been added to the price of the goods not much else in most cases. It's a deposit it's refundable have you never heard of a deposit.
There was a time when all glass bottles had a deposit on them it's stopped about 50 years ago. Often remember returning a few and having the price of a chewey bar
You know exactly what he means
Prices of a lot of soft drink products (if not all) have been increased ASIDE from the deposit.
If prices haven’t increased, there’s been severe shrinkflation across the board on soft drinks. Manufacturers have taken advantage of the scheme obviously.
If you can't return your cans to a DRS, it is a price increase.
It's the Two Ronnies sketch on British Rail "Despite inflation British Rail has not increased the price of a cup of tea on our trains. We have however, reduced the size of the cup".
The point the poster is making, and I agree, is that the cost of the item has increased. Whether it's partially a deposit or not. In January if I had six euro in my pocket and six euro only I could have bought those cans. 6 euro isn't enough to buy them any more......
Now that's just with the DRS fee
The base prices of cans bottles etc across the board has increased also.
Extra duties, do they get a pay increase I wonder?
A royal pain in the arse for them
Oh yes, 24 packs of water have gone up €2 per slab (before adding the tax)
Tesco soda water has come down from 75 cents to 69 cents plus deposit for one litre since DRS. In the North the same water is 75 pence in Tesco.
Yay!
In some shops the worker who is tasked with looking after RVMs gets a notification on their phone when they are full.
So they go from whatever job they were doing and tend to the RVM.
As long as they are not being put upon to do more work in a shift they won't necessarily be at a disadvantage.
Any claims for extra pay would probably be dealt with locally.
Sure I recall it.. the thing is though our parents at the time weren't already paying for glass collection. Whereas we've been paying and still pay for recyle collection inc these cans and bottles. There was no need for it, all it needed was better advice and enforcement of the existing system with more litter wardens etc
The bottles in those days were washed and used multiple times.
Same with milk bottles.
Glass bottles can be disposed of free at bottle banks or civic amenity sites.
True…… but you well know the point that many/ most households are already paying for the collection and recycling of these. If segregating was an issue, why don't we likewise have 'can banks' etc.
Getting fed up with so many machines out of order. 3 locally now not working.
I find it difficult to have sympathy for foe tge vast majority buying bottled water unless they are in aboil water notice area. Buy a reusable water battle and fill it out of a tap. Our tap water is probably the finest in the EU.
But the problem was on the go waste. Only 23% were recycled. A significant proportion were dumped out the window of cars in rural areas or left on the beach on a day out. Only way to hit a 90 recycling target was to introduce a deposit scheme. If you ever took part in a local cleanup day 70-80% was bottles and cans dumped on the roadside
And the sooner they bring in the coffee cup levy the better.
A significant proportion were dumped out the window of cars in rural areas
This "fact" gets trotted out every few pages but I have to wonder what it is based on.
I grew up in a rural area. The litter was a result of fly tipping and strong winds on bin collection day.
Was not aware of that, thank you. Good to know.
There is no 90% recycling target. There's no guarantee the PET bottles collected under Re-turn will be recycled.
You're the one making it get burned, by acting like a petulant 5 year old, even if you are presumably over whatever the minimum age to register here is (13?)
You'll never really get your initial deposit back, unless you don't ever replace what you've bought, after you use the DRS machine.
It's based on the fact that it is common place around towns and villages. I walk regularly I do a 3 mile circle. I carry a plastic bag with me. Every week on the half mile either side of my house as I return home I pick the rubbish. I get 8-10 cans and bottles everywhere week. It pretty common place people threw them out of there cars. I.agine that
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