They have great public transport, mature areas, and good schools.
I know 'good value' and 'affordability' is subjective.
You would get a 3-bed semi in either area with a big garden and lots of potential for sub 450k in either area.
Just because someone bust a house in an area doesn't meant they want to live there. In a place like Beaumont its is because they have settled for living there as they can't afford anywhere better and couldn't tolerate a worse area.
Yeah sure new builds have advantages, but I know people aren’t giving any thoughts to Location, Location, Location.
House prices will go up or down over time, but when subsides are removed from new builds will they stand up over time ?
I just looked up the property price register and what you are saying doesn't match up. I thought my local knowledge was off based on what you are saying but I am not seeing what you claim.
I think there was only one sale over 600k in 2024 and only a few in the >500k range.
There is a vast difference to the cost of properties into Artane due to the sizes and age and importantly there are very different areas in Artane. Brookwood has much larger properties compared to the parts of Artane close to Harmonstown for example
But that is everywhere that had a massive drop in the prices in 2008 with a lot only really getting out of the negative equity and into the same levels they were when last up for sale 20 years ago. I know we hear a lot about property prices going up but while they were, it was taking a long time.
Newer houses do have some benefits if you're a first time buyer but not so much if you're not. And new houses have always been at a premium because there is no work to be done & they often have quite good finishes to them. Plus in the past 10 years they've had heat pumps and some having solar panels included which would add that extra.
Well I know what happened after 2007/2008. But all I am trying to get at is, prices in a lot of mature areas haven’t gone up much if you zoom out in the last 20 years.
Government subsidies have just pushed up prices for newer houses regardless of where it is being built.
I take it you've never been to Beaumont then, considering there's barely any corpo houses. My next door neighbour bought the house when it was built in the late 50's/early 60's. It's always been private.
It's generally ok but I would recommend looking around the other side of Kilmore as it is more settled and quieter. The only downside is they're building a large apartment/housing complex there at the minute.
Most houses where my mom is are going for around 600, maybe 550 if they are in need of work. It is a very nice area, so I can understand why people would want to live there, but it's another example of a rather average part of Dublin that is now well outside the means of the average earner.
My parents is in Artane too. Valued at €700 in 2006 (had to get a revaluation for insurance/mortgage due to work done on the house). Don't know exactly what the value fell to but houses in the area went for €260k-ish in the early 2010's.
Recently house sold around the corner that would be comparable for about €640 but ones with no extension done are still around €560 (having had a quick look at the property price register).
My mom's house in Artane was valued at 600k in 2007. By 2012, it had fallen to about 250k, and it's currently valued at at least 600k.
It's worth nothing that 600k in 2007 would be about 750k today (https://visual.cso.ie/?body=entity/cpicalculator). This should stand as a testimony to just how wild the property market was during the Celtic Tiger years. It's also worth noting that most of that inflation occurred in the last 4 years due to the lockdowns and associated mental levels of money-printing.
I wonder what happened just after 2006/2007 that might have had an impact on house prices…….. 🤔 My parents house was valued at stupid money at that point in time & is not now back up to those levels despite being in a very good location for access to the city centre.
So I remember looking at houses back in 2006/07 in the estate that is right beside Beaumont Hospital. They used to sell for circa 450k~550K for a 3/4 bed. 17 years later, I am actually surprised that houses are just reaching those prices based on the price register.
Cromcastle is definitely Coolock.
To be fair a lot of that area has changed in recent years, and they are solid houses with easy access to city centre.
In my opinion, you are much better off with a house there than buying an apartment.
Im looking at a house in Cromcastle Drive in Kilmore, which is near Beaumont which is near Artane :-) Is this area generally okay? Spoke to a neighbour who said the road is mostly quiet bar a few families who are troubled, but mostly fine. Anyone have inside info?
Most of Clontarf (including Dollymount) is by the coast, or a short walk to it. And easier to get about on bike in Clontarf along the coast. That's the area of actual Clontarf, not the areas that are down as Clontarf political wards, which takes in other parishes. And a lot of it is by St Anne's. And the parts that are not are beside Killester… which has shops.
What are these 'most of Clontarf' areas that are a lengthy walk from the sea?
What shops does Donnycarney or Beaumont have that Clontarf does not?
If you're doing a big shop, preference will probably be to drive in any case. Our for a leisure stroll, jog or cycle preference will be to be close to the leisure \ scenic area.
Most of Clontarf is not by the coast and would be a lengthy walk to the coast from a lot of the area. The coast is nearly as equally accessible to those in Beaumont, Killester and Donnycarney by bicycle and car. You shop more than you look at the sea
Clontarf has the coast and that trumpts everything.
Clontarf actually doesn't have much in terms of shops compared to Beaumont. Most of Clontarf isn't actually full of sights to see. It also has quite a few ex-council houses and very small properties. It is a nice area but not that practical without driving. The Dart station is also far away from what most people consider Clontarf
I think Claw hammer might be joking or else it's a tongue common on the petty snobbery of lower middle class areas the penny looking down on the hapnny.
Eh what? I've never that before in my life! 😂 I grew up in Artane & still know a lot of people who are in Artane & Beaumont. Never had anyone deny living in Beaumont. I've heard some people say they're from Beaumont & go on to further explain that it's near Artane as more people would know Artane but that's it. And Clontarf people who look down on others for where they live need to cop on. Maybe people from Beaumont who are saying it to people from Clontarf are avoiding the agro from a toolbag commenting on where they live in such a way. Says less about Beaumont - more about Clontarf.
I don't know about that, but whatever may be the reputation, it has not stopped rather ordinary houses selling for 500k+. Someone clearly wants to live there.
Beaumont is a shameful area. No one wants to admit living there. If the tell someone from Finglas that they live in Beaumont it will spark jealousy and maybe result in a dig. If they tell someone from Clontarf they live in Beaumont the reaction will be one of disdain or pity. If you ever ask a person from Beaumont where they live, they will look sheepish, then look down at their shoes and say they live near Artane or some such. They will never ever admit to living in Beaumont.
Nothing wrong with it but works are expensive and even getting people is a challenge.
If buying mid 20s and you have a few years before kids it’s easier. However trying to do a lot of work with a few young kids in the house is a challenge (and harder to find the money for).
Hello talla
With others? As in, your wife and kids? Your siblings and parents?
Who else are you letting in to use your jacks?
Tallaght says hello.
Walkinstown is getting a fair bit of stick here! Greenhills is a lovely settled well to do area. You’ll see plenty of extensions done on houses and nice cars in the driveways. Very good bus services in the Walkinstown area- the big issue is traffic. Unless you are up the long mile road end, you are not near a LUAS, so dependent on a bus. The busses in this area have to battle a lot of traffic as there isn’t much QBC infrastructure. There are plenty of schools, health centres, doctors etc.
House prices are nuts though. The cherry trees a great little pub 😉
Their locations are convenient, but unless you were visiting a mate there, I don't think either suburb has much craic or scenery to offer, like say Clontarf. That isn't to say the areas are bad because I don't think they are, they're just heavily residential.
I wish I hadnt mentioned ensuites now.
All I meant was, 448k, 3 bedrooms I would expect not to have to share a bathroom with others. Thats all I meant.
Implicit class distinction? What?
The houses in that area don't have ensuites because they're older houses. Ensuites didn't become standard until what, 30 years ago? A house in Blackrock or Stillorgan of the same era wouldn't have an ensuite either, unless it was added.
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