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You're taking the flags and hats to heart it seems.
Perhaps I should have said something like " a rooting, tootin Trump supporter" instead.
As you have such issues comprehending abstractions that may have been a kinder way of wording it for your ease of understanding.
You were just giving out about "illusory effects" and then introduced your very own, calling him flag waving and hat wearing, something which is completely fabricated by you, and not part of any of the reporting to date.
You seem to really be taking to heart that he's a registered Republican who has had Trump signs on his lawn and is cited by his classmates as being rather conservative.
Touch grass.
The 6th was a disgrace.
Trumps attempted assassination was a disgrace also.
trump attracts the same crowd that shill for our our local arsehóles who beat their wife and kids with a hover, creep around crèches, deal drugs etc, while claiming to be politicians or citizen journalists.
Tthat someone would think that people like that are decent or have anything to offer is a bit strange to me. But in saying that I don't have anything in common with them that would make me think of them as decent, nor am I foolish enough to believe a word out of their mouth.
The registered Republican thing is supposedly not the smoking gun it was thought to be. Some shenanigans have been reported on that topic for some time now.
His parents putting Trump signs on their lawn is also a bit tenuous, a lot of kids go against their parents beliefs, teenage rebellion 101.
You never bothered responding to any of the other points I made, just the hats and flags.
The last time I checked it was considered uncivil to suggest somebody leave a thread for any reason, what gives you the right to tell me to "touch grass"?
Your only other point(s) were to lie about my contributions and make uncivil smears about me, simply for relaying news about the topic, so it's rich of you to take offense at it being suggested you take care of your mental health (you can bring the thread with you, phones these days).
Your complaint was about illusory effects and you seemingly don't like the fact he's a registered republican (well… he was. registers as dead, now.) but those are the facts and they aren't illusory effects by the very definition you threw in here. You're of course entitled to your own opinion dismissing the significance of these reported facts and have your own theories about them but that doesn't make them illusory effects.
I don't feel the need to respond to your entire gish gallop of what you call your "abstractions."
He was not a teenager. Another illusory effect.
But you have happily shared misinformation on the shooter when it worked to paint him as liberal....
Based on my reading so far, we know at the very least that he held conservative views and the family did have Trump posters in their garden. (That might have been the father though) There's no indications he was secretly a Democrat which many posters have pushed but you naturally don't take issue with those outlandish claims.
Were the people at the 6th all rebellious teenage democrats who falsely registered as republicans now, too?
The 6th was a disgrace we can all agree with that, but calling it an insurrection is just BS, if it was, someone should have reminded them to bring their guns. It was a riot by lunatics that's it.
They did bring their guns.
It's an illusory effect to continue claiming they didn't.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/politics/fact-check-rfk-jr-january-6-weapons/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/us/politics/john-banuelos-jan-6-gun-charges.html
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-florida-virginia-conspiracy-government-and-politics-6ac80882e8cf61af36be6c46252ac24c
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-supporter-charged-firing-gun-jan-6-capitol-attack-rcna142538
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/missouri-man-sentenced-felony-weapons-charge-actions-during-jan-6-capitol-breach
etc
Except his classmates have stated he pretty clearly held strongly conservative views. At this point, you're building him up to be the Manchurian candidate.
Jaysus, you're fast with links
you're just slow to accept reality in favor of a big lie.
Firstly I didn't assign everything I listed as being contributions made by you. I simply tacked on at the end that your contributions have been mostly nonsense.
We have established two facts about the young man, who at twenty wasn't much more than a tennager, particularly psychologically. Why that requires hundreds of posts on all matter of topics relating to Trump (who we all know is a decisive figure who has done plenty of bad things) I'm not sure.
My point being that the topic of this thread is Trump being shot, your mission would appear to be to remind us that Trump is a cvnt. We know he is, that's not the topic and trying to spin the shooter as being a Trump supporter and nothing else is just an attempt to preemptively declare some sort of victory in relation to a dead kid who did a pretty good job of hiding his actual motivations.
My mental health is fine thanks, hope yours is too, but let's leave the touch grass stuff alone now shall we?
I'd expect the same. The bigger the repercussions of an event the more people expect a similarly large cause. People have difficulty accepting that something huge can happen due to the smallest and most mundane causes. If Bush Jr. had choked to death on that pretzel there would be pretzel theories online.
Are you taking a creative writing course at the moment or something?
I simply tacked on at the end that your contributions have been mostly nonsense.
Leave out the tacked on at the end stuff will you
Your first reaction to hearing the news about his yard signs was to make a nonsense post about what was it, Trump baseball cards or something.
There would be less posts if such nonsense wasn't applied.
Top Trumps actually.
If you want to see less posts you have the power to make that happen. You can do it. I belive in you.
Again see you are very eager to attempt to derail this topic then cry foul with pithy one liners.
Yes, Top Trumps, I would suggest not inserting that nonsense.
said this in my best Texas grawl
This you bro?
You could have ignored my post about Top Trumps or reported it if you felt it fell below the standard of posting required by this thread.
Instead you chose to engage. Your own contributions have been a lot pitheir than mine, particularly when you feel you have the moral authority to condensed to somebody.
This is relevant to the comment I made about the illusory truth effect. There's a lot still not known about Thomas Matthew Crooks and his motivations but without that information you've been sure to skew the perception of the topic as best you can, namely by posting at a rate that has made this thread all about your opinions and little else and with every openly abusive post directed at those you disagree with you're telling everyone that you're shaping this discussion and dissent will not be tolerated on pain of concern for people's mental health or with people you're less cagey around, openly scathing attacks on their intellectual prowess.
Probably best to put you back on ignore considering how our disagreements tend to lead to total thread derailment and bans for one or both of us.
Interesting that there seems to be a picture of mental health issues with Crooks possibly bipolar or schizophrenic
Very sad situation.
Horrific outcome for Cory Comperatore and the others wounded.
Hard to believe someone could just fall through the cracks like that.
Had "Jan 6th" not been plastered all over liberal US news channels for months afterwords - nobody would have a clue what you were talking about. What's memorable is how blown out of proportion it was. I guarantee if you asked 10 average American people what year it happened, very few of them would know…
The type of diagnosis is interesting, eg. stalkers getting diagnosed with narcissism, like the one who killed Rebecca Shaeffer. Bipolar/Schizo crops up a lot with spree and mass shooters etc.
Hard to blow it out of proportion, and to this very day we see efforts to downplay it with illusory effects, disingenuous denials and outright lies about what transpired.
My guess is it's the parents of Crooks who were Trump mega fans, it was them with Trump signs on their lawns, it was them registered as Republians, Crooks along for that ride, but not a Trump fan, more likely a Biden fan, and that's where the tension came from. There are so many parents who are Trump fans, while their kids hate him.
You're a guy that thinks the moon landings were faked. If you think anyone here is even remotely susceptible to taking you seriously, you're only fooling yourself.
Great point