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Firstly I didn't assign everything I listed as being contributions made by you. I simply tacked on at the end that your contributions have been mostly nonsense.
We have established two facts about the young man, who at twenty wasn't much more than a tennager, particularly psychologically. Why that requires hundreds of posts on all matter of topics relating to Trump (who we all know is a decisive figure who has done plenty of bad things) I'm not sure.
My point being that the topic of this thread is Trump being shot, your mission would appear to be to remind us that Trump is a cvnt. We know he is, that's not the topic and trying to spin the shooter as being a Trump supporter and nothing else is just an attempt to preemptively declare some sort of victory in relation to a dead kid who did a pretty good job of hiding his actual motivations.
My mental health is fine thanks, hope yours is too, but let's leave the touch grass stuff alone now shall we?
you're just slow to accept reality in favor of a big lie.
Jaysus, you're fast with links
Except his classmates have stated he pretty clearly held strongly conservative views. At this point, you're building him up to be the Manchurian candidate.
They did bring their guns.
It's an illusory effect to continue claiming they didn't.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/politics/fact-check-rfk-jr-january-6-weapons/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/us/politics/john-banuelos-jan-6-gun-charges.html
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-florida-virginia-conspiracy-government-and-politics-6ac80882e8cf61af36be6c46252ac24c
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-supporter-charged-firing-gun-jan-6-capitol-attack-rcna142538
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/missouri-man-sentenced-felony-weapons-charge-actions-during-jan-6-capitol-breach
etc
The 6th was a disgrace we can all agree with that, but calling it an insurrection is just BS, if it was, someone should have reminded them to bring their guns. It was a riot by lunatics that's it.
Were the people at the 6th all rebellious teenage democrats who falsely registered as republicans now, too?
But you have happily shared misinformation on the shooter when it worked to paint him as liberal....
Based on my reading so far, we know at the very least that he held conservative views and the family did have Trump posters in their garden. (That might have been the father though) There's no indications he was secretly a Democrat which many posters have pushed but you naturally don't take issue with those outlandish claims.
Your only other point(s) were to lie about my contributions and make uncivil smears about me, simply for relaying news about the topic, so it's rich of you to take offense at it being suggested you take care of your mental health (you can bring the thread with you, phones these days).
Your complaint was about illusory effects and you seemingly don't like the fact he's a registered republican (well… he was. registers as dead, now.) but those are the facts and they aren't illusory effects by the very definition you threw in here. You're of course entitled to your own opinion dismissing the significance of these reported facts and have your own theories about them but that doesn't make them illusory effects.
I don't feel the need to respond to your entire gish gallop of what you call your "abstractions."
He was not a teenager. Another illusory effect.
The registered Republican thing is supposedly not the smoking gun it was thought to be. Some shenanigans have been reported on that topic for some time now.
His parents putting Trump signs on their lawn is also a bit tenuous, a lot of kids go against their parents beliefs, teenage rebellion 101.
You never bothered responding to any of the other points I made, just the hats and flags.
The last time I checked it was considered uncivil to suggest somebody leave a thread for any reason, what gives you the right to tell me to "touch grass"?
trump attracts the same crowd that shill for our our local arsehóles who beat their wife and kids with a hover, creep around crèches, deal drugs etc, while claiming to be politicians or citizen journalists.
Tthat someone would think that people like that are decent or have anything to offer is a bit strange to me. But in saying that I don't have anything in common with them that would make me think of them as decent, nor am I foolish enough to believe a word out of their mouth.
The 6th was a disgrace.
Trumps attempted assassination was a disgrace also.
You're taking the flags and hats to heart it seems.
You were just giving out about "illusory effects" and then introduced your very own, calling him flag waving and hat wearing, something which is completely fabricated by you, and not part of any of the reporting to date.
You seem to really be taking to heart that he's a registered Republican who has had Trump signs on his lawn and is cited by his classmates as being rather conservative.
Touch grass.
Perhaps I should have said something like " a rooting, tootin Trump supporter" instead.
As you have such issues comprehending abstractions that may have been a kinder way of wording it for your ease of understanding.
No, but saying the 6th wasn't an insurrection is just a p*sstake at this stage.
What bullshit. 😂 I don't even remember anyone mentioning Crooks waving any flags, or wearing any caps.
The illusory effect appears to be you using that specific imagery to try and jedi wave, or mind-trick away the very fact his neighbors attest that his home has Trump signs on the lawn. Not flags, not hats. And that he is a registered Republican. This is what we know, this is what is reported. Not flags, not hats.
As respectfully as possible: go touch grass, your efforts to disinform are pitiful, as it is pitiful how much it clearly rankles you that news reports get shared about his yard signs and about his party affiliation.
Lemme guess...
Do the "far right" make an appearance?
Correct, but not for the reasons you would suspect.
Was it all BLM, Antifa, lefties calling "Hang Mike Pence!"?
Pence is more of a Republican, and a patriot for that matter, than grifting Trump.
Anything that's attempting to suggest the shooter was a flag waving cap wearing MAGA loon.
Anything that claims the whole thing was staged by Trump, or by Biden.
Anything that compares Trump to Hitler.
Anything dragging the already well documented misdeeds of Donald Trump into a thread specifically about his attempted assassination.
In short, and as respectfully as possible, most of your contributions on this thread up to this point.
EDIT: Just for ease of understanding, any references to the wearing of hats or waving of flags was not intended as a description of anything discussed on this thread up to this point, it was rather an abstraction used to engender a more vivid mental image of the character of the shooter as proposed by some posters here, than they had perhaps created themselves.
cite the disinformation in your illusory truth claim
This thread is becoming another where the illusory truth effect is taking hold.
Same old characters repeating the same old rhetoric again and again and again.
https://www.axios.com/2022/06/28/mike-pence-trump-jan6-hearing Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said on Jan. 6 that former President Trump felt former Vice President Mike Pence "deserves" to be hanged, according to a former top aide to Meadows.
Why it matters: The testimony underscores how Trump's sympathies during the Jan. 6 attack were with the rioters and their belief that Pence was a traitor for resisting Trump's entreaties to help overturn the 2020 election.
What they're saying: Meadows' former top aide Cassidy Hutchinson said in closed-door testimony that Meadows, Trump and former White House counsel Pat Cipollone had a conversation in the Oval Office dining room on Jan. 6 about Capitol rioters chanting "hang Mike Pence."
Go deeper: Top White House aide warned of security risk to Pence before Jan. 6
Testified to this under oath.
Do you have him actually saying that? or is it a source said it ?
Crazy to think Trump wanted to hang his VP
Oh, his own stormtroopers? Sturmabteilung if you prefer?
Yeah nobody will get upset at those obvious comparisons. I hope that was a pisstake BP. Otherwise it might be time for some self reflection there.
Beer guts in flannel shirts bursting out under plate carriers. It would be ultimate cringe.
Since the Deep State failed at protecting Trump, he could probably ask MAGA to do the job. Can you imagine a well armed Trump militia surrounding his entourage everywhere he goes?
I'd wager the DEI hires in police forces & feds give them a wide berth.
Mmmm…I was put in mind of Mark Chapman myself. A bloke who idolised Lennon and then turned against him because of a few things his idol said in public. When you're dealing with nutjobs, the merest deviation from what they think their idol should say can sometimes be enough to push them over the edge into murderous territory.
You up for a bet on the election? no money involved, something different
