Breaking story, NY Times
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Indeed. but the two old white guys that are on offer are just as grubby TBH.Always wonder WHY anyone would want that job. Your past, present,and future life inc your friends and family become public property for everyone to come in and around in to find dirt.you are under a constant spotlight,and have the burden of responsibility of leading the most powerful nation on the planet and have a button that can annihilate millions of lives in 20 minutes.And get paid chump change for the responsibility.
Similarly to my above question, as an Irish person, why are you behind Trump?
And I don't mean a list of answers as to why an American / someone living in America is behind Trump.
Why you, living here? I really don't understand it.
I don't know if anyone has posted this but there's a video of what appears to be the alleged shooter shouting obscenities like "Fascists" at couple people with a folding table canvassing for an election.
Totally unhinged behavior if it's true.
https://x.com/Cancelcloco/status/1812616926113480804
Hahahaha. There's just no words.
It's not him some other leftist saying he is going to slit republicans throats
Is there any proof yet that the shooter is a "leftist"?
🤣🤣🤣 ….
"im telling on yoooouuuuu" …..
I love these polarising threads……… 😏
Makes you wonder why SS didn't secure all possible buildings with a clear line of sight to President Trump
Looking at that pic … Would it be normal to have a 'rally' in a farmers field ?!???
Seems a bit 'strange'.. . Yes ? No ?
The shooter was actually at the other end of that roof….
It's stupid people on both sides inciting violence that are the problem.
You seem to believe that "the left" are purer than the driven snow, I'm not going to argue with a zealot.
Also you have absolutely no manners whatsoever either so "lol" all you like.
Damn that really was a close call thank God he tilted his head
Trump is a wally.
That doesn't mean it's ok to try to kill him. That's the topic of this thread.
The police do it a lot of the time. When a president, or former one in this case, makes an appearance, the SS go out beforehand and scout the place out. They liaise with the local police and get them to do most of the work. That's because they simply don't have enough people.
I'd imagine in this case they probably imagined the local police would have the building locked down so they don't need to keep watch on it. They might have told the police to do it and the police messed up, or they might have forgotten to tell the police.
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but there's a great book called Zero Fail. It's about the secret service and covers all the times they mess up. And they've messed up a lot. I read it last year, it's really good.
https://www.amazon.com/Zero-Fail-Rise-Secret-Service/dp/0399589015
A lot of the fcuk ups are caused by budgetary constraints. They don't have enough people. the guys they have work overly long hours. There's a big turnover in staff. Also, as an organisation, they tend not to learn fast and there's a ridiculous amount of internal politics within the organisation. .
Nope, it’s all mixed at the moment. Crooks was a registered Republican. He donated $15 through ActBlue, a Democratic-allied “get out and vote” organisation. His parents were Libertarian and Democratic. He doesn’t have much of an online presence. He was big into guns, tried to get into the school shooting team but wasn’t good enough.
Congresswoman Mike Collins posted afterwards 'Joe Biden sent the orders'. Your go. Warning, MTG up next.
Illegal immigration saved his life.
According to someone who attended school with him, he was noted as conservative.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rally-gunman-thomas-crooks-was-definitely-conservative-classmate-recalls
There was a campaign to convince dem voters to register Republican so they could vote to keep Trump from winning the nomination.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2024-01-08/register-republican-vote-nikki-haley-thats-how-we-stop-trump
Given their posting habits on other issues it seems likely it's the religious right who are adamantly pursuing the repeal of liberal values like abortion legislation, homosexuality and closing the borders to muslim immigrants (or immigrants which don't uphold christian values) in order to establish a white Christian hegemony by installing Trump as supreme leader of the entire world. Trump's up for it I think.
edit: oh yeah and inflicting judgment and wrath on the whole world, except themselves because they expect they will be taken up in a cloud to heaven in white garments during the tribulations and escape it all. The remnant, God's chosen people.
His classmates are surprised by the attack but also he was known to be unusually conservative as @odyssey06 points out .
Edit: dropping one link cause I'm not sure on veracity
Thanks for the information, @eightieschewbaccy & @odyssey06 . I reckon we should take some of the sources with a pinch of salt until it appears in some of the larger media sources like NYP or BBC. I know that the feds are currently trying to access his phone, so we may know more after that.
Nothing to suggest that this is what happened here.
Okay? I've seen the shite you've talked through the pandemic and in the conspiracy theories forum to know you are disconnected from reality. You shouldn't be taken seriously.
At this stage we have:
He was a registered Republican
He was big into guns and weaponry (not usually associated with 20 something liberal zealots) as evidenced by the t-shirt worn and membership of gun club.
Classmate talking to local newspapers recalling him as noticeably conservative
Against that there is some confusion about a donation to a liberal group, mixed reports it was made by someone with same name but different age.
On the balance of probabilities I don't think we're going to find he was a closet Democrat influenced by 'left wing' media and Democrat messaging. There is no foundation to that, despite it popping up on the thread frequently. The evidence thus far points in the opposite direction.
We can't rule out an apolitical motivation either, like Reagan's assassin or John Lennon's, or something very local \ specific to this person to have a grudge against Trump.
It will be interesting to see if it comes out that he was targeted and incited to do this by others. Just looking at him, you wouldn't expect him to be able to pull off a legitimate attempt.
That's a fair summation. His motivation might have been to impress Jodie Foster a celebrity or because his neighbour's dog told him to do it.
But that theory only stands up for a brain the same size as shown in the graphic!
The topic of this thread isn't whether or not its ok to try to kill him.
Its to discuss the fact that someone did.
Care to send me a screen shot as I have not posted in the conspiracy forums and not posted anything outlandish in the Covid forums other then symptoms and I've had my shots. But hey fire away i can't wait for this evidence
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