They have great public transport, mature areas, and good schools.
I know 'good value' and 'affordability' is subjective.
You would get a 3-bed semi in either area with a big garden and lots of potential for sub 450k in either area.
A bucket in the wardrobe = poor man's ensuite
The other bit was a reference to the implicit class distinction in your statement that
Very few houses in that area of Dublin have ensuites.
Very few houses
in that area
of Dublin have ensuites.
I don't see how this relates to ensuite bathrooms…
I think "value" isn't an adjective that can be applied to housing in Ireland anymore :/
All this class discussion reminds me of this sketch.
Can't speak for Walkinstown, but Beaumont is very popular.
I would class it as "lower middle class" whatever that means. If you call Clontarf "middle class" for example, then Beaumont is not "middle class", but if you call Finglas working class, Beaumont is not "working class".
I've also never heard Phibsboro and Beaumont being described as next to each other (maybe because they are not). They are miles apart in more than one definition of the word.
Those in middle class Beaumont keep buckets in the wardrobe. Is that not good enough for you?
Anyone how these areas obtain their official designation? I would like to make a submission to have some areas around here upgraded.
Populations change over time. The wealthy townhouses of Georgian Dublin became the squalid tenements. People paying massive prices for apartments down around the IFSC and over on Grand Canal Dock which would have been almost no-go areas for the same people a generation earlier. That said, I think there is also a bit of a bang of snobbery off those trying to convince others that certain rougher areas are now "middle class" …. perhaps because they don't want to be categorised as "lower" or "working" themselves.
A bit thong in cheek but imagine having to come home from work and light a fire to be warm, cook a dinner on an ancient cooker donated by your parents live with swirly carpets and a green bathroom and spend 4 years living like that doing the house up because that's all you could afford also having a tenent.
The world didn't end
The middle class thing is laughable.
I know that, I used to live in the area. All I am saying is, if Im going to spend 448k for a 3 bedroom house, I wouldnt want to be sharing a bathroom with 2+ additional people.
Thats why I was questioning the good value assertion.
Northside? Castleknock, Portmarnock, tarf
You know places that aren't corpo houses wall to wall
Howth South side is upper class, there are only pockets of these areas
Fairview Raheny also fall into it
Both middle class areas. I’d say popular enough with middle income earners. Well built houses, decent space,not many can afford these without a large mortgage. ,
True
Beaumont is no where near being next to phibsboro🙄
There's nothing wrong with buying a house that needs work, but that's not an option for everyone. Indeed, there is a lot to be said for being able to move in without the hassle and expense of doing work, even if it's DIY.
Speaking personally, I would have no issue at all with these areas. The only drawback is the proximity to DCU, which means students.
Curious to know your definition of a middle class area, and in what regard Beaumont doesn't make the cut. Serious question.
Asking for a friend.(literally)
Thank you. Finally calling this fellow on his idiotic comments.
Yes you sound like you know what you're talking about.
One of those has a football pitch for a garden
The other had been done up
Surely they are both more of a stretch
Weird how that doesn't have the big back garden you mentioned before. The point is you claiming sub 450k and found one which had obviously not been upgraded in a while.
19/06/2024
€525,000.00
49 BEAUMONT CRESCENT, DUBLIN 9, DUBLIN, Dublin 9, D09AH97
10/05/2024
€561,000.00
17 MONTROSE AVE, BEAUMONT, DUBLIN 5, Dublin 5, D05DK58
You really are reaching
It's certainly not middle class, unless you think you are
A lot of the housing stock in Beaumont would be 1970 s and either requiring BER upgrading or recently done . Mainly 4 beds with large park , shopping centres , pubs and close to or great buslinks/ corridors to the city . Not to mention the hospital .
For those in good condition You could add another 75 to 100k at least to your 450 there, op .
Many have good size gardens and extensions as well as attics converted .
But much more settled vibe than Phibsborough . Older people , families .
Also housing stock in Phibsborough is mainly 3 bed Victorian redbrick terraces smallish , full of character , or 4 bed Edwardian semis with big gardens ..usually needing complete upgrading or very expensive . Younger vibe . No comparison really .
Next stop down from Beaumont is Drumcondra which lies east of Phibsborough .
So both close to city although latter nearer .
Beaumont close to the sea and St Anne's Park .
I don't think its so much a question of being more popular , its whatever you are looking for and can afford to spend .
A lot of old and new houses in Artane and Killester which is further east again and has facilities of Beaumont but a different vibe again .
Again prices ranging from mid 400 k to high 500s depending on size and location .
Its just curiosity really
Anyway, the person I know who did a refurb bit by bit, a long time ago now, he had a tenant as well as refurbishing the tenant was happy with the cheap room.
Maybe its different for two men living together they put up with mess.
They are extremely working class, the housing is too, Beaumont less so
Everywhere has middle class people forced into them because there is nowhere to go
The clip was perfect
If you listed suburbs of Dublin Walkinstown would be bottom 1/4 for sure, bmont bottom 1/3
yep, I’m not very familiar with Walkinstown but im very familiar with Beaumont. Working class it ain’t.
They are certainly not extremely working class. I'd class them as being between working-class and middle-class. Your two posts in this thread are idiotic and not of benefit to the thread.
Beaumont is a mature area.
It’s desirable due to its location… close to major employment centres such as Beaumont hospital and Dublin Airport…. The area has good transport links, amenities such as gyms, sports clubs, shopping, several pubs and restaurants.
You’ll be at the airport from the centre of Beaumont in about 15 minutes driving ….
BER rating of F. How does one afford to save up to replace the windows with double glazing, if you are spending all your money trying to warm the place?
You'd have to have an understanding of why were they keen on Phibsboro.
I wouldn't have said Beaumont is next to Phibsboro. Drumcondra would be next.
Beaumont is a mature area, Phibsboro has an up and coming vibe with shops, restaurants etc.
Beaumont is not next to Phibsborough at all. There's Marino, Glasnevin & a few others in between them! Could explain why they were reluctant to look there if it's not within the area they want to be.
As for buying a house & doing it up as such. When the houses are north of €500k, having money to put into refurbishments becomes a lot less as most people would be up to the line trying to buy the house. If it's just small things that it needs then that would probably be fine to live with but if you need to replace a kitchen, bathroom or windows, a lot of people couldn't afford to do that for a few years after purchase which lessens the appeal. Plus if its first time buyers, they couldn't get the extra help if it's on a second hand house as opposed to a new build. Pushed a lot of people to place a higher personal value on new build.
Phibs is as close to ranelagh as it is to beaumount though
this is their concern
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