Wouldn't be overly happy with the condition they are in. All doubles sheared today and they were a bit tight
weaned the lambs yesterday , weaning rate of 1.7, scanned 1.93, mortality 11%. would haave had mortality around 8% only for a horrendous night of rain and snow in first week of march where i got 4 dead lambs in various fields some over 2 weeks old.
Anyone recieve a record book for the new sheep scheme yet?
The weather was very rough in general around the lambing time,cold nights and mornings and bad rain showers.It has been an abnormally bad year to date weather wise.
did.nt come here either i phoned department and they told me they be sending them out but that was a couple of months ago
No book here either
hi folks,
I have a fec count query , I dosed lambs here 13 days ago with cydectin. Dis morning I gathered a few samples and dropped them into lab .
Got results back saying 300 trichostrongyles present . I did not do a test before dosing but I’m pretty sure that figure is still high after only being dosed 2 weeks ago , do I have a resistance issue with moxidectin products? At what egg counts do people go in with a dose ?
Vet said 300 was high and need to dose again asap .
thanks in advance of responds .
would think so going by that, have you used it on ewes before know issue found in UK with it being used as injectable o. Ewe’s leading to resistant. side note remember a NZ vet telling me not to use moxidectin years ago he hated it. Can’t remember why but he has a logic
only ever on lambs , don’t dose ewes atal , but those lambs that received it in the past would have been retained as replacement ewes , so they would enter flock as breeding ewes .
Was it due to it being hard on the soil life?
no was some way it targets the worms he had issue with
You have a resistance problem if 300epg is still left after dosing, dose them now with a yellow dose and see does that clear them, We test for local farmers here and a lot of farmers have wormer resistance to yellow, clear and white doses.
There's trials being done on farms with triple resistance now, it'll be interesting to see what the solution will be.
Zolvix is still working well but if it's used too much it'll be useless too fairly quick
If a worm dose is used too much it becomes useless, Ivermectins have been made useless by farmers injecting for scab. The sheep being injected are treated for worms and they not needing it.
We've been FEC testing for the last 20 years and have no wormer resistance to either ivermectins or Levamisole just by good practise. Even the white dose is working reasonable
thanks for the feedback, what is the recommendation epg to dose lambs at tho ? Is it a count of 500 plus ? Think Teagesc recommend 600 ? My vet recommended 250 before, but I’m starting to wonder about him and sheep knowledge.
yea, 500,there's very little loss in thrive under 500 and a lot of vets have very little interest in sheep.
I see the advice for triple resistant flocks is alternating the dose between yellow and clear every time rather than alternating every year.
I go white for first, yellow for second and clear for third. Seems to work well. Is there any point in introducing zolvix at any stage of other doses are working?
I use Zolvix for bought in animals only.
Same as that but I mean introducing it as a once a year wormer at some stage.
If the other wormers are working and that's proven up by FEC results, then there's no need to use Zolvix.
I'll give it a miss so. The small wee bottle i got for any bought in rams wasn't cheap.
It's not cheap alright…
those it cost much per head ??
I wouldn't use zolvix unless the the other wormers weren't working, It's important to do everything bought in with zolvix and levamisole and leave them indoors for 48 hrs until they pass the worms.
I think around €1.30
I've 25 old ewes with not much flesh on them, few broken mouths and a few gummy. They're after raring lambs, would you be cut much for these in the factory or would I be better going to the sales. Getting to the sales is s bit of bother compared to the factory. Mostly hornies but a few mules in there too
Mart if theyre light. At least you could bring them home again if not happy
oh god ye don’t bring them to the factory if they are that thin . Bring to mart or try fatten a little more
is wormer resistance a way bigger problem in sheep compared to cattle?
I would say its less of an issue in suckler herds alright from my experience, especcially those that are more extensive - more of an issue for Dairy I'd say given how intensive that has become and the ongoing issues with the sheer numbers of stressed unweaned calves(with poor rumen/natural immunity) that have to be dealt with on mainly monculture leys, wet weather issues etc.. Its a worrying trend alright and points to a lack of awareness and education in the sector cos I do see other folks locally and what us see posted on other agri forums suggesting meds in general are treated like smarties to be dolled out without much taught for the particular situation or medium to long term consequences:( - need better leadership on the subject from the likes of Vets and DAFM too
H ae a Sturdy Grande lamb feeder. Scotch lambs of about 20kg. Lambs seem to find it difficult to access feed. There are a number of bars hanging loosely, can these be removed? The lambs are weaned.
