Clare GAA Discussion part 2
personally we should keep it for the final , its a gesture to michael cusack so keep it for the final , its a quality jersey in fairness
its probably going to be another cardiac final like 2013 …both of them
If your a Clare fan, who did you want to play in the final? I'd assume most would rather fancy their chances with Limerick? Just with history and that?
I know Clare beat Cork in the 2013 final, but someone pointed out to me today, of all the tier 1 counties, Cork have beaten Clare more than any of the other big counties have beaten one another. I looked up their past head to heads, and it must be said, Clare's record against Cork is brutal!
Will this play a part in the psychology of the game? But as I said, the last final they played, Clare won, so will take heart from that.
Clare should of won that easily the first day, yet Cork were still seconds from turning them over. Clare are about the same level as they were in 13 I'd think, but Cork are alot stronger than they were in 13.
If a better Clare still struggles with a weak Cork due to the history, I'd find it hard to see how Clare would get over the line against a good Cork team
ì wouldnt be worried about history , cork love all that but we see no significance in it , what would worry me in two weeks time is our first half performance and early second half stuff , think mikey careys 70 yard run on goal as david fitz stood aimlessly in the middle of the field instead of tracking his man , john conlons pace against shane barrett or david mcinerney against shane kingston when introduced , we like cork have loads to offer going forward but at the back is up for sale , niall oleary was excellent today and adam hogan yesterday for us too both have had mixed years up to now
hard luck yesterday , ut could have been anything at half time , even lohan said he could have made 6 or7 changes at half time , paddy deegan was top class on kelly too
I actually really like Clare and their brand of hurling, but history must play a small part in a teams psychology. In 13, Clare were the far superior team man for man, and it was nearly a case of Cork forcing their aura on the game, and Clare nearly buckled. But fair play to them, they rescued it from the fire.
Just going by history, even at their best, there does seem to be something about Cork Clare seem to continually struggle with, more so than even KK or Tipp. It's quite odd tbh!
2013 or past history will play no part in the history of Both teams. Both teams will fancy their chances and Clare had the upper hand over Cork last two championship games. I'm not so sure Clare are always hard to beat but like Clare, Cork have a chance as well.
Except… you need to look at recent results.. we live rent-free inside Corks head these days. Beat them Cork this year, Beaten in Ennis last year…2021 Cork won I think. There's nothing between them if they both show up. Cork have to be the hyped favourites after today.. lovely..
I think Clare are favourites, they have to be after beating Kilkenny.
i think we spent 45 minutes yesterday chasing kilkenny before any sort of quality ball started showing up in the clare full forward line , that wont be good enough sunday week in my opinon
I am a firm believer that anything can happen on the day. Nobody including myself gave Cork a chance today but they showed up and got over the line just.
Clare always play well against Cork. It's a tough game to call.
Wait till you see who Cork beat…
Worked for Donegal in 1992. Hope ye can do it
and kerry years back too!!
Your actually right. Didn't realise Clare won 4 of their 5 last meetings, which is their best ever run along with beating them 4 times in a row in the mid 90's. Other than that though, it's been bleak for Clare for much of hurlings history with Cork, well 2013 too.
Could you say Cork declined somewhat since 2021, but have picked it back up this year. Because if that's the case, normal service may resume. If I was involed in Clare hurling, I'd still be keen to work out the reason Clare have generally struggled to deal with something in Corks game for much of their history. Because I think this will be a different Cork to the one Clare beat a few times lately
Their hth head is something like 40-16 to Cork. I'd say generally Clare don't play well against Cork, bar the last few meetings granted. But I think Cork have raised their level since then
i wont be getting over excited that its cork in the final and not limerick , our win record is like 20% over the last five or six years against them , where's our championship record since 2018 against cork is like 80% with the only defeat being in 2021
but its totally different , if we make all them mistakes that we made yesterday and allow all them goal chances we will be seriously up against it by half time going on yesterday
i remember a cork man in the first game in 2013 turning around to me after the anthem and saying cork need to win today nearly 10 years is too long to go without an all ireland , i never taught i would see cork go another ten especially the likes of hoggie
our only championship defeat to cork since 2018 was in 2021 we have played every years since bar 2020
A big last 15 minutes from Kelly and Rodgers on the scoreboard. Massive impact from Taylor and Galvin off the bench.
I really think Cork have stepped it up a gear or two since halfway through their championship group in Munster this year. A rejuvented team in belief, compared to what we seen in 22,23 and the first half of this year. I think it's a mistake believing the Cork that Clare beat then, will be the same one in the final. They're hitting their potential now. Different animal. And if that's the case, I'd be trying to figure out why Clare had previously struggled with Corks game, more so that any other county.
you are right they have improved but they were on there knees in the latter stages today , and fell over the line against dubliin , thats why i worry about us having a bad start because they usually start at 100 miles an hour
You will agree with me that Clare would take a fall over the line victory v Limerick. I think Cork should have won by more today. They last 10 mins including ET I wasn't happy with from Cork point of view
I wouldn' read too much into the end of the game today. It was a changing of the guard type of game. Limerick were always going to try and force it at the end, last kick of a dying horse sort of stuff. Now that Cork actually got over the line, they'll kick on further from that.
Clare are going to have huge problems dealing with this rejuvenated Cork team I think. Cork will be running at them from all angles, blitzing them. Corks interplay, pace, movement, now aligned with belief, is going to take some stopping. I think Cork could run away with this tbh
we fell over the line ourselves yesterday , both counties have had too many disappointments at semi finals in the past 6 years , we would take a referee to blow the game up 2 minutes early yesterday to get over the line 😂
we were in section 306 in the cusack , we could see everything , and for whatever reason kelly put in nothing until the last 15 minutes , i have no idea why if it were tactical then lohan told him not to get involved in any rucks and keep paddy deegan (his marker) out of the way
talyor was a sensation when he came on and fitting he finished the game with the ball in his hand after doing his ACL this time last year against kilkenny and first game back
rodgers has to come too far out the field to win his own ball , but when shanagher is introduced he dose all that and rodgers feeds off him afterwards
Ah sure look aren't we just happy to be in an All Ireland Final, we're only the small fish! It'll be an honour to share the field with this mighty cork team. 😉😉😉
Lads if Taylor got back in for the final who is most likely to lose out?
And keep the score down to less than 40 point gap 🙄
probably david reidy , kelly would move into a more forward position or else we would play with a 3 man midfield , you cant drop malone he is too important to winning dirty ball in rucks , he put in a serious shift yesterday and most of it is off camera when watching it on tv
There's talk of this cork team doing multiple all irelands over in the other thread! 😂 The ink isn't even dry on the refs report for today's game! Don't know where cork supporters get the cockiness tag from! 😂
