Got connected to eir FTTH yesterday. My timeline:
Minister abrogates responsibility for a National plan to Eircom's open-ended and arbitrary deployment and connection choices.
https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2024-10-09a.46#g51.r
As per records made available to this department the premises in question is a new build and has been included in open eir’s Full Fibre deployment programme which will provide a full fibre Gigabit connection however the build process has not yet commenced within this premises' area.
One last question. Do I need to clone MAC address?
Oh great. Thanks. Will give it a try soon so.
eir tv will work using PPPoE, the old eirvision product wouldn't, from what I remember
guys, sorry if it’s covered already in the thread but is it possible to get eir tv working when using a 3rd party router to replace the eir router. Want to swap out my parents router as they have frequent dropouts and buffering on eir tv.
I’m comfortable enough setting up vlan etc but from what I read eir tv won’t work in pppoe mode. Is there a way to get eir tv working on a 3rd party router?
For the record; Eircom - Galway announcement 2024-06-24
Additional works are planned for Ballinasloe, Kinvara, Loughrea, Miltown, Oranmore, Portumna and Turloughmore over the next six months.
Minister making hopeful noises before the Oireachtas committee on Wednesday
https://www.kildarestreet.com/committees/?gid=2024-06-26a.15
Some of the most significant connectivity issues are in cities. Many estates in south Dublin that might have been built in the 1980s do not have the ducting. It can be difficult to roll out high-speed gigabit broadband in these estates. The Department and ComReg are looking at working with local authorities to facilitate support for that specific problem and, in doing so, make it commercially viable to roll out high-speed broadband everywhere. ……. we believe that overcoming that immediate access issue in those estates will close those gaps. With that done, pretty much the entire country will have access to very high speed broadband. This is a vital project that is probably next up to be delivered by the State.
ComReg is consulting currently about mutual access and sharing of in-building cabling among providers. It obviously affects competition, price, and choice. Information about the ability of building management companies to do exclusive deals with particular telecoms providers or charge residents/owners fees in relation to upgrades might be relevant.
https://www.comreg.ie/publication/facilitating-network-deployment-through-infrastructure-sharing
Questions for all Stakeholders
There are other questions in Annex 1 that customers/residents/owners could weigh in on also.
The consultation is open until September 2nd.
Whether ComReg is genuinely interested is another matter.
The copper switch off applies to Eircom (Eir). It relates to their old copper voice, ADSL and FTTC networks and may proceed exchange by exchange depending on the 100% availability of either FTTH or alternative 'Modern Infrastructure'. The Modern Infrastructure may be supplied by anyone. Virgin are not caught by the directive and separately have claimed that they'll have their network upgraded to fibre by 2025.
The ComReg decision is here.
https://www.comreg.ie/publication/framework-for-the-migration-from-legacy-infrastructure-to-modern-infrastructure-2
I saw an email from SIRO that Comreg has approved the commencement of the "copper switch off" which is apparently an EU directive where they want all copper broadband switched off by 2030. Certainly news to me.
I live in a house that does not have ducting for fibre cables and despite being in an area of eir's fibre map marked as "live", I don't have any fibre options - it all comes through the copper TV cables ala Virgin Media. I still have 2GB options but if they switch it off what are my options?
Finally.
Good choice - I'm with Digiweb on VDSL (Openeir FTTC) and have full 100 Mbps no issues. I'm sure you know that, depending on the infrastructure, the wholesaler (Openeir, SIRO or whoever) or their sub-contractor will do the actual installation.
I went with Digiweb in the end, according to reddit they seem to be pretty good.
Im booked for instal tomorrow morning so fingers crossed.
I went with their 1GB/100MB €34.99 pm for 6 months then €59.99 pm for final 6 months then we can re-negotiate.
I will more than likely settle on 500 MB after the first 12 months but im so long waiting i want to experience 1Gb for a while :P
Have westnet would definitely recommend them
Here's the long version of that exchange with ComReg Commissioner Helen Dixon. I doubt that government policy on fibre connections in blue (commercial) areas is as open-ended as ComReg's 'wait and see' strategy.
Ms Helen Dixon: There is no contract there. Obviously, NBI is under contract from the Minister and the Department in terms of its roll-out to the intervention area. It is under specific obligations and must install regardless of the difficulties and cost in that intervention area. For the commercial wholesale providers such as SIRO, Virgin Media and Eir, there is no contract. They simply contract with individual retail providers but there is no contract with an area, loca- tion or estate that obligates them to install fibre lines.Deputy Martin Kenny: That means we do not know the situation for the people who are left behind. They are technically in an area which is covered by the commercial provider but they are actually not covered. We will have to wait years before somebody comes back to deal with them, which is very inappropriate for the individuals who are left behind.Ms Helen Dixon: The Deputy is right. I think it is only going to emerge over time. For our part, what we are trying to do is ensure there is competition in the wholesale market. We now have three providers that are seeking to roll out as far as they can in the commercial space. They have no desire to bypass any households in the commercial space; they only end up doing so where they discover it is unviable. From a broad base picture, yes, we are not going to know for several years which of those areas are definitively bypassed. As the Deputy said, some of the operators are saying they will skip that area for now but may come back and see if they have a solution later on.Deputy Martin Kenny: It is very unsatisfactory, is it not? Certainly for the people who live in those areas, it is very unsatisfactory.Ms Helen Dixon: It is, but if one was to say those areas should now be placed in an inter- vention zone, one is precluding the possibility that a commercial provider may yet pick them up on a second sweep. In terms of timing, there is a period that has to be waited before the picture becomes clearer.
A Vodafone door-to door guy came by here offering a "€40 forever"* deal.
*I think it's this one, but it's subject to CPI + 3% annually.
https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/broadband/nbi.html
Also try Westnet if you're in their catchment.
What is the general feeling of decent ISP to go for guys?
Finally after many years i can now avail of FTTH.
Im currently with airwire for 100mb vdsl and they have been decent to deal with but more expensive than the most of the others.
yeah i know they have the gigamodem+ but their site still doesn’t show me ftth option.
Must keep an eye on it.
Vodafone also offer 2GB over OpenEir
They might not want to offer a retail 2gb project just yet. Most would need to supply a new CPE. Probably wondering is it worth it right now, when most customers won't have the need of it
so according to open eir i can get upto 2gb but apart from Blackmight all the rest are only saying 1gb. is there a reason for this or will the other resellers update shortly.
I had the same situation for a while, there was FTTH ducting at the end of the garden since 2019 and they only activated it in March this year. Connection was quite complicated and I had to do a lot of legwork as they had the house mapped to the wrong 'DP'. So, it took multiple visits and a lot of emailing people to get them to redo their mapping.
The phone line was overhead and for some reason they had us mapped to a DP in the middle of the street outside at the other side of the house. It was just a mapping error, but the amount of rigmarole involved in getting it corrected would make the HSE look like a bastion of efficiency.
Aspects of Eir still seem to operate like the P&T in the 1970s, even though it's long since been a private company and is far from being a monopoly, having thrown away most of their business in urban areas by assuming they were a monopoly when UPC / Virgin Media really got building out fast.
I remember the days when Eir was offering crap ADSL speeds while you could get decent speeds on cable, and they were wondering why they were losing customers in cities and towns.
Siro and Virgin are at least keeping us from being stuck with a single access provider and NBI are filling in the blanks in rural areas..
Martin Kenny TD raised the issue of arbitrary non-connections with ComReg Commissioner Helen Dixon at an Oireachtas Committee meeting, and whether to deal with it through prompt transfer of affected premises to the NBP, or wait for the providers (Eircom, Virgin, SIRO) to do another sweep.
“We’re not going to know for several years….…there is a period of time that has to be waited before the picture becomes clearer.” - Helen Dixon
“We’re not going to know for several years….
…there is a period of time that has to be waited before the picture becomes clearer.” - Helen Dixon
https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/video-archive/committees/9411
From 1:36:00 to 1:43:00
Where I live in East Cork the surrounding nearby towns have all had ftth rolled out by openeir but not here. Siro launched a while back here but had been holding out expecting it to happen with eir but nada. Will go with Siro at the end of the current contract.
Cheers pizzahead.
Rang eir and they said it will be available end of next month and to ring pure on this date.
While I know it takes time to rollout this many connections, they could still do with being a lot more transparent on rollout timelines. I know people who should have really gone with wireless alternatives in Cork City Centre (seriously ... in the middle of a city -- no cable, no FTTH and really poor FTTC due to long lines) but have held out with the endless promise of FTTH rollout from both OpenEir and Siro, which seems to just always be 'any week now...'
Some of the very worst broadband in Ireland is in old urban areas of large cities: Dublin 1 and 2, parts of Dublin 7, a lot of the centre of Cork, I don't know about Limerick, Galway and Waterford, but I assume similar issues apply.
If the Government is serious about wanting to regenerate older areas of cities for housing and office spaces, they need to realise there is an actual problem with broadband and it's not a recent one. They're always the last places in the country to get updated, as they're hard to wire and have very old infrastructure.
I now a guy living in an apartment in the centre of Dublin and his house has no cable tv, terrible broadband and he can't even tune in Saorview ... it's a joke. He was relying on 4G and 5G mobile for internet during the lockdown.
Modern suburban areas are the low hanging fruit - density, and relatively modern infrastructure and ducts. Rural is recognised as having issues and has been funded, but the city centre cores and older areas are largely just assumed to be commercially covered, and they often aren't being well served at all.
Yes it's up to you to order FTTH from a supplier, they just don't automatically upgrade you
This, absolutely.
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I ordered it like a month ago (I was with VM... well, sorta still with VM), already cancelled VM because there was guarantee they could install it since 'it's on the website' the operator said. Even few neighbors got moved to Eir/Sky
Then when contractor came to install; they couldn't install me to the pole that is just left of where I live; but they had to connect me to the one to the one to my right, just across the street (the distance difference is VERY subtle). Guess what: that pole is a safety hazard for the installer because there were nothing to climb that pole; then had to call VM to revert the cancellation that day as they gave an estimation they were going to install the post near DECEMBER 2023 as forecast date.( WHAT?!!! )
Now, I remember 3 months ago when there were several people hanging on those posts for a week installing those fiber boxes. They could do it. But... the boxes are duct taped (lol, well, they're not ideally installed). So..... still very frustrated that service is available, but I'm doomed to the fr****n' post across the street; which I do want to burn down to ashes.
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Fiber providers have to get their sh**e together.
Just a quick one for you guys.
i have been on 30mb line for years, got a pamphlet in the post awhile ago about 1GB speed coming to the house with FTTH.
Now nothing has been put in in my house, but when i check what speed i can get in the Eir/Sky site it says i can get 1GB.
Im with pure telecom now. Is it a case of me having to ring them about getting it installed?
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