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Everytime I see a Sinn Fein supporter maintain that there is a chance that FF will go into government with SF, this Jim Carrey scene comes straight into my mind.
If Sinn Fein is the junior party, if SF is willing to set out a clear apology that the PIRA were wrong, always wrong and that there were alternatives, if SF is willing to bin most of its policies, including a border poll this decades, then, yes, there is a chance that FF will go into coalition with them.
@Augme, you have won me over.
FF won't require any of that because then it calls into question all atrocities carried out by all forms of IRA.
As little as ten years ago the idea of a FF/FG coalition would have been laughed at.
If FF don't have the numbers and there's pushback on going in with FG again, they'll talk to anyone.
I stand by what I say. MM is now completely secure as leader, he won't touch SF. Big climbdowns needed by SF to get anywhere near government.
I hope they don't go in together, but FF like power and anything goes in its pursuit.
That's why FF will get my last preference, with SF and the mad independents left off the ballot.
Bingo, actually that is best video to describe it
You and other have spent days saying SF will have no problem going into government with FF even if FF don't want to
SF who say that FF are incompetent etc etc etc, all their supporters online daily bashing the TD's and anyone who raises their head as a supporters
Isn't that a desperate pursuit of power from SF? 😂
Exactly, as the SF supporters on here have said.
A vote for SF means nothing because if they join with FF they will have to throw out the entire policies, what the party stands for etc
So cut out SF and just vote for FF would be my advice
Or vote for SF and watch their desperate pursuit for power 🤣
What a scumbag.
You would think that he would have slinked out of the public eye after the twix story came out.
I know you FGers are desperate for FF to while have eyes for those lovely blue shirts but reality will set in eventually. FF, the republican partry, will never demand an apology for the PIRA activities. Talk about shouting themselves in the foot with that one. The same for binning a border poll this decades, even your famed ex-leaderr admitted a united Ireland is only a.matter of when, not if. When someone from a party who detest the idea of a United Ireland that says it all.
No I haven't. Not everything leads back to SF.
And FG had nothing but high praise for FF before the civil partnership.
You seem to believe everything is an online SF conspiracy.
He's claiming him putting his arm around the woman, a stranger, saying 'you're coming home with me', was him being jovial.
He argued with the husband. Then after they left the scene, followed them to continue the argument.
Why was he gifted a senate seat? Surely FG will dump him, otherwise going after similar bowsies in the army will look awfully hypocritical?
you ploughed into the middle of a conversation, next time read a few of the posts before
Oh the “blue shirts” comments are out
The best way to achieve a United Ireland is what the current government is doing, cross border projects and trying to build relationship with all parties in the North
if you want a United Ireland, the only parties that have a plan and going about it the right way is the current government 👍
Vote FF
You attributed opinion to me I never made. You need to read back or stop making things up.
Oh I read it…you claim FF are desperate for power but the whole discussion is about how SF are so desperate for power they will change their whole party. Skip the middle man, vote FF a chara
FG have zero interest in a united Ireland. They detest the idea and always will.
Au contraire mon ami.
It was, 'would FF go in with SF?'. So we were discussing the odds of FF and what they might need SF to do for it to happen. It's a FF/FG/Green thread, not a SF one. If FF will partner with FG, anything can happen.
Fine Gael increasingly going for the anti climate populism.
If FF can wrangle ownership of the concept, they'll support it, otherwise it's more important not to give SF a win. Whereas FG just don't want a UI. They'd rather we joined the UK.
They've scrambling to get on the anti-immigrstion and anti-climate bandwagon for a while now. I'm amazed people talked about them going into government with SD/Labour etc. They'd be much more at home with Independent Ireland and some other similar minded independents like their old colleague Verona Murphy.
FF will get on any bandwagon if they feel there's extra votes in it.
Independent Ireland have yet to prove they are a coherent political outfit or will have a significant number of seats in the next Dail. If some combination of Soc Dems, Greens & Labour can bring FFG up to a workable Dail majority that is almost certainly our next government IMO.
You saying this from the vast experience you have on party policies and talking to members of the party?
Or are you telling us this, like the blue shrit comment, you read it on the web and think it is a party policy?
Already made my point, you can jump around for a few more pages if you want.
I think @blanch152 video says it all 😂
Thats a lie
How are the rest of your posts to be taken seriously when you post lies?
How on earth do you not know the difference between an opinion and a quoted party statement?
Do you think your plucky research skills found a lie?
Do you expect to be taken seriously?
Makes a mockery of the last week or more with Harris and McEntee going after the armed forces and speaking out about assaults.
I wonder will they go after senators with a history of assault, in the media, with the same passion?
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0703/1457939-john-mcgahon/
I'm a Green voter, stop assuming things.
You are Jim Carrey personified with your "so there is a chance" stance on FF going in with SF.
Will the victim of McGahons assault be brought into the the Dáil for a round of applause ?
When you tell a lie here,your posts can be disregarded for the nonsense you've shown them to be
You said FG do not want a united Ireland
That is a lie,a complete falsehood made up by you,do you not expect in a discussion forum to be called out on a lie,expect disappointment on that score
They were happy to go with Independents who didn't have coherent policies before not hat certainly won't stop them.
All one needs to do is listen to the current leader of the party.
Simon Harris has struck a different tone, acknowledging the aspiration as legitimate, but not a priority. His comments will be well received in Westminster and by Unionist parties in Northern Ireland.
Says it all really.
A fine gaeler with a bike.
I'm simply have to take Micheal Martin at his word. The door hasn't closed, anyone who thinks it is is deluding themselves.
