I disagree with most of your points, but I like your attitude. Personally I don't believe in being less consumerist, I don't believe in reducing consumption, I don't believe in the huge efforts being put into being more efficient with energy. Just bloody hugely increase renewable energy. It will sort everything out. Yes including aviation, which of course is a disgrace at the moment being very polluting and completely untaxed
Should look to scrap the diesel and run them with these bad boys…….
Might just bring the saying 'Ain't no substitute for cubic capacity' back in vogue….
oh I’m just dreaming of the conniptions Michael O'Leary would go into.
at Flavours of Fingal…
You can't do this without massive rest stop
Wonder is it just solar powered ice cream (ie no generator running), or is van also electric?
China seems to just copy old ideas without really thinking about why they failed in the first place. The problem is being the place it is it's impossible to get reliable data on what they are doing. It failed the first time because the economics (and practicalities) made no sense. Not for any technological reason that they can do better now.
Some info here…
https://www.whitbymorrison.com/epower
Transport companies taking perishables to Europe do it all the time. 2x drivers, sleeper cab, minimal stops.
Minimal stops includes a minimum 6 hours stopped in 24 hours with two drivers. Also not sure how much this is actually done considering the widespread shortage of qualified drivers.
Last week saw a heavy single axle EV truck in Near 3 arena might have been a Renault.
Tesla semi truck battery can be charged in about an hour and has a range of about 800km. It is more than enough for any long range truck
Pepsi use a load of them in the USA and they never need to charge them except overnight in the depot (obviously they are distro trucks, not long range hauliers)
There is about 100 of them in the world… that’s not loads. Tesla couldn’t even supply Nolan Transport if they wanted to electrify…
For sure. Tesla has always struggled to increase production capacity of all vehicles and will keep that struggle for years to come. Remember they went from a few thousand to over 2 million vehicles per year within a decade. No other car manufacturer has ever grown that quickly. My guess is that cash cow Model Y has the highest priority and everything else has low priority.
If Tesla cared about the model Y they would be well into working an an all new model by now, but they don’t have the motivation to give it the mild facelift the 3 got.
i think it’s obvious that tesla feel the need to pivot to something new to sustain the daft share price and they seem to be already orphaning their core business to do this. Not good for EVs really.
Why would they refresh the top selling car? They have volume to sell and it's selling well. It reminds me of ford under Henry ford in the 1910's and 1920's, when the model T was getting long in the tooth. It was still selling well after 20 years on the market and multiple iterative changes, so they didnt change it until it slowed sales. I see a lot of paralel between that era of ford and the current tesla. Worth noting that , before Tesla, Ford is the next newest created american car company thats still going. (excluding upstarts like Rivian and Lucid etc that aren't profitable)
It was the most popular car in the world last year…. why would they change it??!?
How do you know they are not changing it?
Teslas profits slumped by over half, something is being done wrong or vanity programs like the x2 Trucks are eating operational costs.
They are, Juniper is the casual project name and expected by end of the calendar year
“We’re the market leader, let not innovate”. The thought process that killed many a giant.
but they are…
This time next year there’ll be newer versions on Irish roads…
I think they figured out in Detroit almost 100 years ago that car buyers expect new models regularly. Every manufacturer has a 5/7 year upgrade cycle.
Ford lost serious momentum by not updating the model T, and handed a lead to the other manufacturers they never got back… all because of a truculent, right wing, gifted, inventor.., it does indeed sound familiar!
So we are about 3 years away from that cycle?
MY appeared here in 2022. That’s a 2027/2029 refresh period. BMW do similar. E60 2003-2010. F10 2010-2017.
No, no you're wrong there. Different standards apply to Tesla apparently.
it was unveiled in 2019. It’s only getting a facelift next year. It will be the rover 214 of the ev motoring world in 3 years time.
BMW announced the F10 in 2009. It ran until 2017. So that’s 8 years. So that makes the Tesla better than the legacy manufacturers. Cool. The Tesla folk be happy with that.
Worth remembering that Tesla does incremental updates to the cars rather than having model years
Model 3 was basically a different car in 2023 versus the 2019 one, and that's before the facelift
Do I think the Model Y is due a refresh? Nah, nothing could make that thing good looking (sorry to any owners, just can't bring myself to love that car)
Do I think Elon is bonkers? Yep
Is Tesla dead? Nope
The other thing to remember with Tesla is that the software updates often give you similar to updating your car. For example my 2022 Model 3 recently received Matrix and turning lights. Yet the recent Highland Model 3 now gives me the itch, due to the refinement improvements.
Until 2016, so 7 years like I said.
The g30 was more than a software patch and a new front bumper too mind.
Every manufacturer updates models as they go and always have not just Tesla.
completely agree about model y. They are odd looking. But you don’t notice when sitting in it at least.
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