It looks like a new scheme is on the way as Limerick County Council have started the procurement of consultants for the Foynes to Limerick Road Improvement Scheme.
I presume that the works under way relate only to the initial section to go to construction. They must be planning to move on with enabling and advanced works for the remaining part as this tender refers to the whole route.
Two civil works contracts currently in place, covering the whole project.
Engineers jobs for the project just advertised
D&B tender out forAdare Bypass section
Is it published on etenders?
Happy now?
Happy days. I see it looks like they'll be building the full Croagh junction.
However it only mentions the 7km between these junctions. Could 'associated connections to and realignment of existing National and Local Roads' cover the other 3kms from Attyflin?
Exactly what I was also wondering. Would be ideal to have M20 - Croagh open in one go.
There are always variations to every contract
adare to croagh to be built by 2027…will croagh to rathkeale and on to foynes be constructed after 2027 or will it be built at the same time as croagh to adare?
Probably a phased construction.. They'll get Adare-Croagh open first, but construction on the rest should (hopefully) be well underway when it opens.
Is it normal that the awarding of a contract to build a road is tied to delivering it before a 2-day golf event, as reported by RTE.
It's not normal, but we won't complain. It's not just reported by RTE either, it's stated in the tender linked above.
And the Ryder Cup is a lot more than a two day event. There will be months of preliminary work and construction of temporary facilities in and around Adare Manor to get the venue ready and the event itself will be a week long, with the actual tournament taking place over 3 days.
I don't know why there has been some animosity about the Ryder Cup being a motivating or conditional factor for the delivery of the motorway. I don't care if a non binary sheep and cows matchmaking festival was the reason for it's fast tracking as long as it means funding and delivery of the road are assured and on time!
If you are a daily/regular user of the road, I fully understand your frustrations and wish to have it dons as soon as. I've been through Adare, on and off, over the last 50 years. Should have been done years ago.
Maybe some people feel it just seems a bit lastminute.com. Rush job, unforeseen problems, blame the contractors, cut corners (pun), scale back…
The over riding principle should be build right, build once.
Anyone know when the Ryder Cup was confirmed? How much time has been wasted?
The planning process for this road predates the awarding of the Ryder Cup by years. Planning started in 2014 and the project was sent to ABP in 2019 where it spent 2 1/2 years waiting for permission. It was then appealed to the High Court by three different parties. Luckily these were resolved out of court relatively quickly, but it was still June 2023 before all legal obstacles were cleared.
The Ryder Cup was awarded in 2019.
This project has absolutely nothing to do with the Ryder Cup. It was going ahead anyway and it's just coincidental that they are overlapping and that the golf can be used as a reason to push for the completion of this part of the scheme.
Prior to all this the original Patrickswell Cork motorway proposal - jettisoned in 2008 envisaged a spur that bypassed Adare to the South. The Adare bypass bit was thrown out on planning grounds, before the whole shebang fell victim to the economic crash. My recall of exact detail is open to correction but an Adare bypass is on the horizon in various guises for a long, long time.
Decades.
I was on a college tour back in late 99 on the rosbrien to patrickswell and the senior resident eng gave a presentation on the project. Mentioned the alignment at the Adare end was with a view to continuing the dual carriageway to the north of Adare. Charles someth or other, english accent. That road back then cost circa £33 million punts. Mad whan you think backwhy it wasnt progressed shortly after or indeed at design or planning stage.
Charles Dendy
That was him. Thanks
In fairness whatever about the long delays with the scheme the last thing anybody wants is to have a major road construction project ongoing when one of the biggest golf events is happening in the same location with all the extra traffic that that will bring.
So it's a reasonable demand to say in the tender that given the dates of the Ryder Cup the tendering company has to be sure that it can bring enough resources to complete the scheme in advance of those dates.
@Jayuu yep, that's reasonable. Unfortunately "the project should not make the traffic shitstorm caused by the golf-thing any worse than it will be anyway" gets interpreted as "We have to have the project completed because there's a golf-thing happening".
I only wish the they'd tied completing the Metrolink to the 2027 Ryder Cup!
I take it Sorenson are doing the enabling works. There is a deep enough dig being undertaken inside the wall opposite the golf club.
was there ever consideration given to extend the motorway as far as castleisland? would make tralee / killarney to limerick a pretty quick spin or is there not enough traffic to justify?
The only reason it's being built is to connect Foynes port to the motorway network as part of the European Ten-T project.
No, that's never been a plan. 2+2 bypasses for Newcastle West and Abbeyfeale are in planning though.
Traffic volumes have to be a justification too. The entire route probably wouldn't justify it. I think once Abbeyfeale and NCW are bypassed with dual carriageways along with the 2+1s and climbing lanes already in place, it'll probably be as good as it gets. Templeglantine will probably be the only semi built up area that motorists will have to endure traffic calming measures along that route. Maybe a few more stretches of 2+1s at other pinchpoints would be of benefit for safe overtaking.
2+1's are gone I'm sure.
