Interesting to see a Muslim country ban the hijab and curtail other Islamic practices to protect its culture. https://theprint.in/world/muslim-majority-tajikistan-bans-hijab-as-part-of-years-long-campaign-against-public-religiosity/2141068/
That’s absolutely not true and tbh even if you are close, there’s a huge difference in a belief that a fiery fate awaits and taking a person to a rooftop and throwing them off.
Though I doubt you’ll see the nuance.
Oh come on. I have no time for any religion, but this is speculation of the maddest sort. Thinking or even saying that someone is doomed to burn in hell is entirely different from feeling entitled to punish them on earth. Islam has clear punishments on earth for things like apostasy or adultery. Christianity gave up on that a couple of hundred years ago.
Until Islam officially does the same (ie there's a guarantee that there will be no more fatwas against individuals), one of the two is FAR more of a danger to the rest of us than the other.
Christians think gay people will burn in hell for enternity when they die becuase they, doesn't take a genius to figure out what they'd like to do to them in this life.
All religions and cults yes, including those where other are expected to go along with your beliefs no matter how insane. Quiet agree.
Would they?
Pretty hard to substantiate that isn't it?
Keep your islamaphobe nonsense, I have no time for any religions but I'm only afraid of one of the major religions and there's a good bloody reason for it.
They would love to. If you can't see that it's all religions then your a hypocrite and islamaphobe.
Except it isn't.
Christians aren't executing people for being gay or stoning women for adultry.
I can find a lot of fault with Christianity and all religions, but Islam is by far and away the worst and demonstrably so.
Religion is the problem, if you want to ban religion then I am all for it.
LOL we're talking about Tajikistan here. Government overreach, you say??
Ridiculous isn't it.
Queers for Palestine and such nonsense. When they be the first thrown from the library roof in downtown Islamastan.
Thing is "Liberals" aren't liberal at all.
As can be seen in America, Christianity is literally cut from the same cloth.
Islam leaves no space for liberty.
Oddly it's "liberals" who fight the corner of Islam with the most vigour.
Islam us the greatest threat to civil liberty.
If we're being honest, any "culture" that makes women cover themselves up because the men of that culture deem in necessary is out of step with the modern world.
Islam will likely be the largest religion in the world by the middle of this century, we've just had a century of progress in rights for women, gay people, the list goes on, here in the West and it could all be wiped out in a few decades because of a religion so intolerant and backwards becoming dominant by virtue of its adherents out breeding everyone else.
I'd categorise the spread of any religion at that scale as a problem on par with nuclear war for the human species. We've learned these lessons already yet here we are about to repeat them.
How do you get an Irish person to do something? Tell them they can’t……
The majority of people? What's your basis for that?
Most Irish people I know are only nominally Catholic, but fierce if their right to be like that is threatened.
I disagree with this, I really dislike the burka but think other forms of Muslim head dress are quite elegant, besides it's gross government overreach
Hijab Im okay with. Burqa, any sort of face veil, no.
Its funny because if face veils and burqas were a common part of Christianity the left would be out calling them what they are, wife-bags and tools of subjugation.
pre-date Islam too. *they're only cultural tradition, not part of Islam.
*(face veil, burqa)
Once again for the slow children, it is not about hijabs.
The OP said that the hajib was being banned and your first post was to say more countries should do the same.
Not sure what you mean by muddying the waters when you said exactly what you said.
Its good to see a push back on religion colonizing the public space wereever it happens. If religion is to be tollerated then it needs to be a personal observance and not a political force. This applies to all countries and all religions.
And yet Catholic systems are still ingrained in Irish society despite the majority of people disagreeing with them. Where's the push for removal of cross necklaces (which would be equally as ridiculous as banning someone wearing a scarf on their head).
Apologies, you posted a different link, that I copied, but I was referring to the link in the OP. What they banned was a religious festival - https://theprint.in/world/muslim-majority-tajikistan-bans-hijab-as-part-of-years-long-campaign-against-public-religiosity/2141068/
While the new law bans the hijab and all other forms of foreign clothing, existing laws in the country restrict Islamic prayer to specific locations, regulate the registration and location of mosques, and prohibit those younger than 18 years of age from participating in public religious activities.
Don't know what you mean. I put up the link, so I wasn't "leaving anything out". How was my post OTT please?
Banning a children's festival seems way OTT though.
I see you left out the 'religious' bit so your post wouldn't seem so OTT .
"the Majlisi Mill banned "alien garments" and children's celebrations for two most important Islamic holidays - Eid al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha. These Muslim festivals are known as idgardak…"
https://www.livemint.com/news/hijab-ban-tajikistan-parliament-approves-bill-prohibiting-alien-garments-and-eid-celebrations-by-children-11718932757680.html
This article says it's about "foreign" clothing, and that traditional Tajik clothing is being encouraged instead. Miniskirts were banned in 2007, and this is looking at tightening up the other extreme. (Bushy beards have been banned too, so it's not only women, though overall the control does seem to be targeted more at women.)
In recent years, the Tajik government has launched a campaign to encourage the wearing of Tajik national dress, as mentioned in “The Guidebook Of Recommended Outfits In Tajikistan,” released in 2018.In 2007, the Education Ministry banned both Islamic clothing and Western-style miniskirts for students and later extended this ban to all public institutions.
In recent years, the Tajik government has launched a campaign to encourage the wearing of Tajik national dress, as mentioned in “The Guidebook Of Recommended Outfits In Tajikistan,” released in 2018.
In 2007, the Education Ministry banned both Islamic clothing and Western-style miniskirts for students and later extended this ban to all public institutions.
It does seem pretty authoritarian, TBF. That's unsurprising in a dictatorship I guess. Banning a children's festival seems way OTT though.
It’s not - nor should it be. Poster is trying the age old tactic of muddying waters.
It’s the niqab and burka we’re taking about. Which they know.
It's just a way of showing clerics, votaries and fanatics who's in charge.
As in Egypt if religious radicals feel themselves to be powerful they might topple the government.
Hijab is just a scarf wrapped around the head is it not?
Not sure why it's ban-worthy.
Tajikistan has been dealing with growing Islamic militancy as the Muslim population there are now being preached to by properly trained Sunni scholars, it's great for human dignity to see the hijab banned but it's the least of their problems.
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