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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Some of the Irish celebs have embraced the chicken fillet Roll personality type (which makes Mrs.Browns boys look like Shakespeare)

    You're one from Derry girls had the Brigderton cast and crew over for a junket last week. Without fail she gave the Xpose types the "of course I'll bring them to see my mammy/have a guinness/ the O Neills shop".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Drugs which even in small amounts really impact a person's ability to act rationally. Meth for example. I'd be in favor of legalized weed but then be very harsh on coke, heroin etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,770 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …again, this wouldnt actually address the underlying issues that causes the use of such, i know plenty of class a users, most showing signs of prolonged significant mental health issues of which little or no professional care has occurred….

    interesting podcast on irelands drug issues…

    https://podtail.com/podcast/in-the-news/what-is-fuelling-ireland-s-cocaine-epidemic/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    His children would be Irish of course.

    The same way Rashidat Adeleke is Irish but her parents are not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Do you think people in Singapore don't have mental health issues. Why make it easier for people with those issues to access drugs. The idea that it's a lost cause and we have to just accept drug use in society is ridiculous. Many countries have very low level's of drug use, usually places that punish it severely.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,120 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    What if those drugs were sold in standardised small doses? So you could get a small bump of coke or amphetamine? Similar to how you can buy a measure of whiskey or a can of 5% lager? You wouldn't behave rationally having drunk a bottle of whiskey or s slab of lager, so they are sold infairly standard units.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Someone who has been born and raised here or grew up here or spent a large part of their formative years here.

    Someone who emigrates here as an adult and has no connection to the country other than they moved here is not Irish.

    Same way if I emigrated to France in my 20's and ended up living there for the rest of my life I would never be French and I think most people would agree with this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,120 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I thought you were making a distinction between ethnically Irish vs irish nationality. But you're not doing that because Aki's children won't be ethnically Irish.

    So how does it work?



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    But someone born here to foreign parents isn't Irish either, so how does your definition work?

    I didn't realise he had even become an Irish citizen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,770 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    do you actually have definitive data to support your claims please?

    yes Singaporeans do of course also struggle with mental health issues and addictions issues similar to more western nations, including alcoholism and drug addictions

    the reality is, its currently a free for all in regards supply, we ve no real clue how much is coming in, how much is being used, therefore we cant make good decisions regarding what resources are required to deal with the problem, as we end up completely reactionary, by that time addictions are well embedded, highly complex with all sorts of serious dysfunctions. legalisation may in fact introduce some sort of controls, potentially preventing serious dysfunctions otherwise, drug use may in fact become safer, resulting in less serious injuries and deaths. this is exactly what we done with other serious drugs such as alcohol and nicotine etc, and naturally theres still serious issues regarding these substances



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    I was raised in the UK and didn’t live here till an adult, my father was Irish. Can I look at my Irish passport with pride yet ?

    I’m white btw if that helps your decision…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    Bundee? I didn’t know he had yet tbh but if he wants to fair dos the lad is surely a naturalized citizen by now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The internet has the potential to give everyone the Library of Alexandria in their pocket, instead we opt for The Daily Star.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,792 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Shur, doesn't he have his own Texaco in Offaly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,405 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Poetic !

    Actually the ancient Greeks had it all sussed a long long time ago. We've just been given the keys to heaven and instead choose annilation.

    (Edit yes the Library of Alexandria was Ancient Egypt ... Anyway)

    Post edited by SuperBowserWorld on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Yeah , you can be counted as Irish because you have some sort of genuine family history here , but if both our parents were german and you moved here as an adult and then got Irish citizenship I wouldn't count you as being Irish just someone who has citizenship.

    Although I'd argue looking at a passport with pride is a bit odd as it proves nothing it's just a travel document .

    Nice accusation of racism by the way there, odd you felt the need to do that seeing as I clearly pointed out in a post that Rashidat Adeleke was Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    They are Irish as they have been born and raised here.

    It's not that difficult a concept to understand in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Aki's children would be Irish if they were born and raised here grown up here.

    I think the vast majority of people would consider that to be the situation in Ireland, just like Irish people who emigrated to America and had children there, their children would be American's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Green” is essentially the way to go into the future - the current Green political parties don’t have a clue - but the other parties like FF, FG and SF have their heads berried in the sand on this topic - we need our main parties to take on the Green agenda



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    but they are not actually Irish, that's literally just your opinion! Legally someone with Irish citizenship is Irish, someone born here to foreign parents is not.

    IIm not suggesting that they are less Irish in the way they feel or have been brought up. It's the law



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭randd1


    People living long term under the rule of autocrats are fundamentally a weak people. I see no strength in the likes of the Russians, Chinese, North Korean or other such people for accepting a dictator as their lot.

    Ultimately, people are the power, and accepting living under a dictator is a sign of a weak-willed people. Of course there are various reasons why this happens, but ultimately they are the ones that allow it to happen.

    Whatever the faults of the West, Western democracy is by far and away the greatest form of governance the world has ever seen, offers the greatest freedoms, and despite some situations, puts the power of the country in the hands of the people.

    And the West flirting with this type of autocracy is a potential disaster for humanity, and I believe the Western flirtation with autocracy is a sign of our decline into weak-willed societies like Russia and China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,992 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,992 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I wouldn’t disagree with you, you’ve said you’ve got the passport but if you weren’t born here some might not agree, as we’ve seen above.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I believe certain cultures: in middle eastern and certain African countries due to inherent tribalism baked in, cannot ever manage a democracy.

    Best case scenario: a strongman of a dominant group is better than equally matched but perpetually warring small groups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    People who post "eat the rich" anticapitalist memes have no idea how fun it is/was living under Communism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭cms88


    While no one is justifying it, at least i don't think anyone is anyway, the recent Natasha O’Brien case. It's yet another excuse for the same groups and people to push their agenda. She herself being one by claiming it only happened because she's female. These random attacks can happen to anyone both male and female, yet we're being led to believe it only happens to female. Would there be the same outrage if it had been a male? Orf course not an if anyone is to say otherwise the greatest cop out of ''whataboutism'' would be used.

    It's also worrying to see ex female members slate the DF when they know full well they couldn't do anything until the trial was over before they could act.

    I also see Limerick Pride getting in on it now by telling the DF they're not welcome to join them in their events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    I'd add to that by pointing to the fact that ideologues like Ruth coppinger have opposed the building of more prisons, claiming that such policies are classist

    Same ideologues now complaining about lack of sentencing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    "She herself being one by claiming it only happened because she's female."

    Fair play to her for coming out against the judges decision but if it was a male or a woman from a lower class knocked into unconsciousness I very much doubt the media would have latched onto it as much.



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