So what if he beat him in 15 seconds? He was impressive in the fights up to that I agree, but the length of time doesn’t make him the best in that division. It’s a stretch to say he “destroyed” that division.
Doing better against Khabib? Like when Khabib knocked him on his arse and toyed with him…that fight yeah?
He beat the a guy that was undefeated in 18 fights in like 15 seconds, He completely destroyed that division.
As I said he was a top six fighter in lightweight and not a lengend of that division, far from it. He did do better against Khabib than a lot of the top ten did.
He's easily in the top 5 featherweights of all time, its absolutely ridiculous to think otherwise, he's not in the conversation for lightweight.
Impact wise for what he's done for the sport, he's easily the greatest of all time but I wouldn't consider him one of the greatest fighters of all time
Not the singular, undisputed GOAT at 145 - for the reasons listed. And we'll never agree who that is.
But are you honestly saying you'd not included him in say top 5 featherweights? Hmm, that kinda sounds a bit like undermining his 145 run due to the shambles of his more recent history. Who would you have in that case? There have been some underserving UFC champions, but I don't think it can be said any 145 champ have an easy fight for the belt.
An easy way to stay undefended champion for sure. But you'd have to get to the UFC title fight and win without being defeated on the way. If you think that's easy, I look forward to you debut 😋
That fair. If he defended agaisnt Edgar, rematched Aldo, and rematched Max before vacating, then it's much more solidified. But as above, his run to Aldo was enough to for top 5, imo
I was referring more so that the competition would have been greater if he had to defend.
Don’t get me wrong, back then he was stellar, he could have been really great at 155, but he went for the money and who could blame him.
I would say that he can’t be considered “GOAT” at all though without defences, and lack of activity.
Not really. True McGregor can't be in the GOAT discussion without defending, but it's not "easy" to be undefeated given the run he had.
After a string of lower level wins, then ran though Buchinger, Brimage, Holloway, Brandao, Porier, Siver, Mendes, Aldo.
No part of putting together an unbroken run against that list of fighters up to the KO of decade unbeaten Aldo was "easy" and anyone who argues it was is just being disingenous.
Potential career ending injury
Dana white was in Shannon earlier , wonder was he going to check up on Conor’s pinkie toe 😁
Actually, it was his pinkie toe. That's a devastating injury to be fair.
He was in so much pain, I heard he cried "wee, wee, wee" all the way home.
It is easy to be undefeated when you don't defend the belt.
Pulled out for a broken pinkie haha
He shouldn't even be considered as one of the greatest of all time.
Chandler hinting at fighting max Holloway now. Great fight! Hopefully he doesn't wait any longer for McGregor
I suppose the logic of people who say that, is along the lines of; defending the belt, or even fighting at all. Doesn’t make you a better fighter/athlete. If you are the best, then you are the best, regardless of fighting or not. Fighting simply proves it to the world.
If you asked most people why the featherweight goats are? You probably get babes like Aldo, Max, Volkanovski, and maybe Conor. Aldo had the streak. But lost to the other 3. Max list to the other two. Vols and Conor never fiubfht, but both beat Max and Aldo.
Of those 4, Conor was the only undefeated champ (at 145). But, the other 3 all defended their belts. Too many variables, we’ll never know.
That’s fair.
I’m with you at lightweight though. Really inactive, beaten 3 times easily. Had he not fought mayweather…who knows.
There could possibly be an argument (which I don't agree with) of greatest featherweight. But weren't the last two Poirier fights at lightweight? So he has a 1-3 record in that division. Clearly nowhere near top 6
How he can be the greatest featherweight of all time or the top 6 lightweight without defending a belt once, that is beyond me.
Strange post, nobody here is living in he past , its a conversation about how good he "WAS" & where it went side ways ,
Grown ups can separate the person to the athlete & speak about his place in the sport,
I doubt you'd find anyone you excuses him as a person ,
" but all he money he made" Its also a good topic on Conor because that was always the primary goal , unlike some other fighters, For example lads like Khabib & GSP was all about legacy & record first & nothing wrong with that ,No talk of moving up or wanting to take out other champs, When GSP eveneutllay did he need years to prepare & gain size afraid of losing ,GSP is probably my favourite fighter of all time but he was very careful ,
If Conor was like that he would have stayed at FW but he always wanted to push the boat out & make massive money fights & spectacles ,
Comments like yours are odd , fight fans like to watch fights & speak about them , what fighters do or don't do does not effect any of us or our lives or have any bearing on the person , I don't think anyone over the age of 10 is interested in a fighter outside of watching there fights , I'm not sure why people try to make it more complicated than that , makes you sound like your upset at people for no reason ,
The biggest star UFC ever produced, yep.
Greatest featherweight of all time, yep.
Top six fighter in lightweight, yep.
If he didn't do the the boxing could he have doing more in the lightweight division, yep.
Sums up his career. He did a lot more than a lot of top six fighters did againt Khabib
Unfortunately the lifestyle destroyed him after the mayweather fight.
Why would former fans find it tough now that his career went off the rails? Nobody should be that invest mentally in a sports stars career. That goes both ways too, anyones source of joy being that Conor got injured and had to pull out, may need to talk to somebody. Sounds miserable.
"but look at all his money ,money money money"
He's obviously loads of money, but I don't anyone has tried to used that to justify the mess?
Agree with it all, Conor's accomplishments can never be denied. but I guarantee those close to him are still feeding him shite, the "yes" men is what killed some of his career, especially the Khabib one. Kavanagh rolling him out for Khabib instead of actually telling him to give it up, or tell him he isn't prepared. his approach to that was disgraceful, his sparring is getting the Tesco workers in for €50 so Conor can get confidence KO'ing a few kids. Lads have been kicked out of the gym for less, but not the cash cow… Kavanagh has a lot of blame for allowing him remain at SBG and not get the boot. It makes the likes for Chris Fields releasing Garry earn major respect
Sad to see lads living in the past.
Must be tough for the millions of ex Mc Gregor fans all around the world to see the state of him now. Pulling out of fights, out of his head .he had it all .especially how to fight, but had zero class ,
He hasn't strung a coherent sentence together in years ,he's aged no end,cann9t fight. I never envied him and certainly don't envy him now.as for the all aligations of a certain nature .how come so many ?
"But all the money he made "
What an empty argument. Glad to see the back of that embarrassment.
Mendes got tired because of all the body shots he ate; not a lack of preparedness.
100% people close to him will tell you the same & he does have regrets sporting wise but fortunately for him he was so well managed & on the ball that financially it never hurt him at all ,
Every time since Mayweather that he has tried to get the head down & have proper go at MMA something mad has come up & stopped it & now he is too old to ever be what he could have,
We have to remember the guy fought to primary make money & he has done that better than anyone ,
That wasn’t aimed at you. I know you get it.
The conversation started with comments about him being too for FW. Despite all other FW champs being a similar weight.
100% to everything there. He went from living at the gym to living it up. If he walked away from MMA after Mayweather, he’d be remembered very differently now.
Instead, people are blinded by the shambles of recent years, and struggle to separate the two. I guess that’s in part due to some resentment over what could have been.
Not sure who said he belonged in a different division. He made weight at 145.
Sure, his reach is great. Probably longest in the division. But a bit silly to say somebody belongs in different division due to reach.
“He made 145lbs, it’s a featherweight title shot”
“Yeah, but look at his arms, they belong in welterweight. Should be DQ’d”
Agree with this.
I look at the post above.
The beating he put on Porier = Porier was "green" even though Porier had more a) pro fights and b) ufc fights than McGregor at that point and was on an overall very good run between WEC and UFC. I mean seriously.
Knocked out Mendez only because Mendez "got tired", as if him getting tired was nothing to do with the fight itself, all the wrestling, and getting pieced up.
Got lucky when he knocked out Aldo who I think hadn't been beaten in like a decade.
Was lucky to fight Alvarez who he made look like a bum and Alvarez was no slouch, he was in a war with Porier after that and his next fight he KO'd Justin Gaethje.
That's besides all the other decent people he KO'd along the journey in the crazy run, Max, Buchinger, and the other UFC wins and so on.
It doesn't matter if you think he's the biggest scumbag to ever grace the surface of the earth or if that version of Conor is long gone. The man was an incredibly good fighter, "luck" wasn't the reason and trying to downplay his achievements while promoting this luck nonsense like that is disrespectul to the sport.
I honestly think he would have beat Khabib if he never fought Mayweather ,
A few reasons he became to rigid, flat footed & boxing focused, He spent 2 years away from his sport in his prime,
Mostly because the money he made sent him over the edge, He was a different person, the alcohol & you know what changed him, He lost what made him a brilliant marital artist ,
The camp for Khabib was a absolute shambles fuelled by alcohol, Drugs & rage , misplaced at Khabib but really because his life was out of control , training schedules where a farce & he had a mess up foot to go on top of it, ,
Just watch the pre fight press conference gone was the clever witted smart Conor & it was replaced by a man full of rage & contempt
Anyone remotely close to anyone near him will tell you the Mayweather fight was the end of any serious MMA goals,for various reasons it all unravelled & he has never been able to put it all back together since,
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