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I didn't realise that there was so much money flowing through the Trust. In around €50m in 2022 alone.
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AndrewJRenko
Why don't people in such circumstances fundraise or otherwise assist an existing charity instead of setting up yet another one?
Does it mean that they can't find a single existing charity they can trust? If so that raises even more questions doesn't it…
I don't have an exact answer for you. I would come back to the deficit issue. We underinvest in mental health. See HUGG, set up by a mother of who couldn't find a suicide bereavement group after her 11 year old who took her own life.
That doesn't address what I posted in any way whatsoever.
What year was that?
Cluid was set up in 1994.
Respond in 1981.
If the government was providing adequate housing, there would have been no need of these being set up.
More revelations:
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0621/1455855-400k-spent-on-home-for-use-by-family-of-friend-of-ex-mcverry-ceo/
IMHO charity designation should only be given to organisations who's main income is from donations.
Organisations who are mainly funded by the State or who have big contracts to deliver State services should be treated like any other service providers.
Schools, hospitals, housing providers who are primarily state funded shouldnt be charities.
the NGOs are a vehicle to transfer state funds to FFFG family and friends.
There's also the issue of procurement. Many of these services - often multi-million contracts - could be provided by a variety of organisations. But 'charities' get a free pass and never need to tender for these contracts.
I don't think that is true actually in all cases, it depends.
One of the RTE articles flagged due to their receipt of funding \ provision of state services they should be tendering.
It begs the question of where is the oversight. I have zero confidence in the Charity Regulator, this should be overseen by the state bodies awarding the funding.
The award of the €200,000 transport contract by the McVerry Trust to Mr Bollard's company was a breach of public procurement rules, which charities in receipt of significant public funding must abide by.
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0611/1454193-mcverry-contract-tender/
I'll give a very simple example. There are a number of charities providing meals to homeless people in the city centre. Some of them are largescale operations - with 100s of customers daily. Funded by the State.
There are several large companies who operate on site canteens for large employers - multinationals, hospitals, education campuses etc.
Often wondered if these companies could provide meals to the homeless at a cheaper cost and more efficient than the charities? May also be higher quality - same meals as the employee gets in a multinational. (All these companies have standard menus they use for all customers - not economical to have different lines for different customers).
Yeah they should be designated as non-profits or something, but not allowed use the word charity.
It's a complete mockery when the government is reaching into our pockets to make "donations" to "charities"
They also need to stop using non-profits to outsource state services, providing an extra layer of political insulation from the fck-ups while denying the frontline staff the going rate for the job. e.g. people working for NGOs in disability services are ultimately paid by the state but don't get the public sector pay deals, there's always a standoff for a couple of years until the government eventually agrees to fund them, but in the meantime prices and everyone else's wages have moved on.
It also perpetrates the mentality that disabled people and others who need these outsourced services should regard themselves as lucky to be getting even inadequate services - they need rights not charity.
they are setup to shift legal liability away from the government.
if the government doesn’t want to deal with someone who wrecked a council house previously and is addicted they pay one of these lot to do it.
Man drinks until his wife and kids all end up homeless. They break up. She gets housed by government. “Charity” take a picture of HER and kids and puts them on a leaflet asking for donations. Uses the money to house HIM and give him “Support”. Actual fact the government buys the house also. Addiction is never solved. Just gives the drunken arsehole a place to continue drinking.
I worked in the industry as it’s rotten to the core.
Pat Doyle left the McVerry Trust in May 2023, after 18 years as CEO.The document notes that when Mr Doyle's successor sought evidence as to whether the family of Mr Doyle’s friend was eligible for such social housing, none could be obtained.
Pat Doyle left the McVerry Trust in May 2023, after 18 years as CEO.
The document notes that when Mr Doyle's successor sought evidence as to whether the family of Mr Doyle’s friend was eligible for such social housing, none could be obtained.
Pat Doyle's name very prominent in all of these fraudulent dealings, and pretty clear that the CEO who replaced him but resigned after only 5 months had a lot more integrity. I suspect Doyle is currently shacked up wherever the likes of Dee Forbes goes to hide when news about their scummy fraud starts to leak.
Rotten to the core isn't the half of it when it comes to these charities.
The rat hole goes deeper, they used money from a government fund, to provide refugee housing, to buy and renovate a house with the initial intention of giving it to the family of a friend of the then CEO.
It just gets murkier and murkier.
They all end up this way. Im never donating to a charity again. I donated thousands over several years to another charity who i thought was above reproach only to find out all of the money i ever donated went to enriching the directors, staff, friends and not to the cause i donated for.
These charities should be liable for putting drug addicts into apartments and making life hell for their neighbours. The people living there can’t go to the press for fear of dealers targeting them.
Where did the money for Carr communications come from? Oh yes, it came from donations by both the tax payer and the kind public they extracted money from on the streets.
Carr communications will be in touch with each and every person who donated to thank them for this money.
Any sign of McVerry himself giving an interview to any media outlet?
He was happy enough to appear when he was having a moan, but no sign now when answers are needed.
He has disappeared. Probably called back to Rome to explain himself, the modern Church does not like financial irregularities and scandals like this.
I don't disagree.
But it's not just charities. This is the reality of "housing first" policies for addicts: they remove the incentive to change.
Probably hiding out somewhere with Dee Forbes
Looking for answers from an 80 year old cleric is probably not going to go anywhere.
The legal entity that is the PMcVT is accountable.
He was happy to be the face of it when he wanted answers or wanted a rant.
Nowhere to be seen now when others want answers.
correct me if I am wrong, but there is no information to suggest that Peter MvVerry was personal involved in any wrong doing?
True, well not that I know of.
But if you are the figure head of an organisation, then you have to be seen in the bad times as well as the good times. Not just be another Dee Forbes.
Even the universities have charity status. It’s ridiculous.
He never made statements to the media to improve his own personal position.
He walked away from wealth and a comfortable life to dedicate himself to helping people who were abandoned by everyone else.
There is no comparison between Fr. McVerry and Dee Forbes.
