KO'd the longest reigning FW champion of all time for the World Title, literal World Class. Dominated and outclassed the undisputed LW CHampion for the World Title, literal World Class. There's two at least. Nobody is claiming him to be the GOAT, but he's a two-weight World Champion. On both occasions he fought and finished the incumbent champion is devestating fashion.
I understand your want to minimise his accomplishments. I can't stand the man either.
But yo letting your biases colour your opinions only reflects badly on you.
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Ok so, you tell me what I'm thinking. You seem to know better
Conor McGregor was a very good fighter, with one world class performance in the UFC
If he hadn't have fought Mayweather, I think he had more in him, and could potentially have beaten Khabib, but we'll never know.
There is a reason he is talked about as "UFC's biggest star" rather than in any GOAT conversations. The man marketed himself incredibly well, and made the most out of his talent for a period of time.
Yes but McGregor has a clear advantage on his feet due to his reach compared to some of these lads. Eddie for example couldnt get near him. Got clipped every time he tried to come in.
Divisions are based on weight not height. Volk is short, but he's still a big FW. He was much stockier when he played rugby. Max is close to 6', but obvious was much slimmer than FW of similar weight.
Height is co-realted to size, but it's hardly absolute. Look at all the massve 200lb+ bodybuilders that are significantly below average in height
Not then no
And Conor?
You're still doing it. Very little credit for McGregor and any bit of credit you give, you take something away by making an excuse. As The Nal said above, McGregor was also reportedly compromised going into that Mendes fight.
And twice you've mentioned the Alvarez fight, but you can't resist not giving him full credit. It's a "Yeah, McGregor did great BUT………..".
Lets not forget that Siver, Mendes and probably Aldo were juiced up.
Wow, you're really reading what you want from my post.
Do you not agree that Mendes was beating McGregor with his wrestling, and then got tired?
I then said that I'd love to have seen a longer McGregor vs Aldo fight, after complimenting McGregor for landing a perfect punch.
Alvarez played perfectly into McGregors hands. McGregor destroyed him. In my mind, it was the best performance that I ever saw from Conor. All I said was that RDA would have been a different style of fight, and I dont think RDA would have been as easy a fight for Conor
What people don't say is that McGregor was injured in a few fights in his career.
He fought with a torn ACL for nearly 2 rounds against Holloway.
He was injured going into the Mendes fight.
Theres rumours his knee has never healed properly.
I'm not Conor's biggest fan but I love when stuff like this gets rolled out, making excuses for each of his accomplishments. Mendes having a short camp isn't Conor's fault. Aldo pulled out and Mendes stepped in. I remember at the time there was a whole "I stay ready" angle from Mendes, that they don't do fight camps they just stay ready to go all-year-round. As soon as Conor beats him, it was because he didn't have a full camp. Excuses! The facts are, McGregor put him away. He took the wind out of him with body kicks and finished him. Having said all that, I can see where you'd get your argument from…………… But there's no excuse for the "whataboutery" involved in his KO of Jose Aldo. You're literally saying "If Conor hadn't knocked him out cold with one of the best punches we've ever seen, things might have been different". Do you know how desperate that is? And to try to reduce Conor's demolishion of Alvarez by saying he might not have done that to RDA………..
There are many many things to criticise Conor for, but his executons of both the undisputed 145 & 155 champions are not the ones!
In a lot of ways it was his best performance considering Fight 1
Exactly my thoughts. Very good fighter, just not my idea of great. btw, I thought deserved winner v Diaz. Great fight and great performance and adjustments and variety.
Knew you’d like that one
McGregor was an excellent MMA athlete, but he was also very lucky.
He faced Poirier and Hollaway when they were both very green at FW.
He faced a few other journeymen
He then beat Mendes, when Chad only had a few days to prepare. And what is often forgotten, is that Mendes was having the better of the fight initially, but tired quickly. McGregor might not have been so lucky if Chad had a full training camp.
McGregor then caught Aldo with a perfect punch. Would love to see how that fight played out over a few rounds
Then McGregor absolutely schooled Eddie. Not sure if he would have done that to RDA.
Also worth remembering, lots of people thought he lost the second Diaz fight also.
I dont think anyone disagrees, that the Mayweather fight was the end of him as a serious MMA athlete.
In many ways Conor is an embarrassment to himself, his family and the people of Ireland. But nothing can be as embarrassing as saying "McTapping" unironically. Oof!
I actually think the hunger - the initial wave of achievement- was lost when he beat Mendes for the interim (yuck) FW title. Anything after that was a bonus.
But yeah, he probably did better against Khabib than anyone did.
The Floyd fight made Conor but also ended his MMA career for several reason's , Lost his movement, lost his dedication , lost that hunger, But you fight for money & it made him for Life,
Per Floyd Conor was at his peak in MMA
Conor's natural weight was FW,
He aint no where near the size of a Khabib. Khabib missed weight multiple times at LW & cheated to make weight v Justin ,Conor never missed weight once at FW
Conor could have done what Khabib did and stayed at one weight been regarded as one of the greatest ever but he chased more than that, you have to give him credit,
Also lets not forget Dustin on fight night weighed in at the heaviest a LW ever has on record so he too is a bigger man Naturally than Conor,
The Eddie performance was amazing no way around that , utter annihilation of a champion similar to Jones v Shogun
Sorry but that absolute nonsense ,The guy was unreal in his prime, I;m not sure how he wasn't well rounded
One of the greatest performances by a challenger in a UFC title fight, Not a quick finish but showed he was light years ahead of the Champion , Eddie was like a child with no hope,
Destroyed the 145 pound division and deservedly world champion beating an undefeated Aldo, probably a top six 156 pound fighter at his peak. To say he wasn't a top fighter is ridiculous. I actually liked him till the Aldo fight, after that just became an absolute toe-rag.
He was never the same fighter after the Mayweather boxing match. Too much money and partying. Earning 130 million ruined him. Just didn't have the discipline. He did a lot better than other fighters against Khabib in the top six fighters in that division.
Yes. Good point. I get that
Being pedantic, but he didn't move to LW to fight Eddie; he moved to fight RDA. RDA got injured and lost the belt to Eddie while the Diaz fights happened.
Eddie couldn’t do one thing,
It wasn’t even a beat down , it was like a calm methodical , dismantling.
I don’t think I got excited watching that, it was more like watching it stunned :-D and just going wow, nothing else to say.
I dunno if I remember correctly but did Joe rogan get stick for being too calm commentating on it also.
I think he was in amazement also watching how one sided it was. Conor was prime there , with his stance and floating. After that it pretty much went down hill.
The short answer is simply, that you are mistaken.
I think this idea of being a "natural LW" came up before. All of those champs are naturally LWs. The guys fighting at LW, unsurprisingly are natural WWs and so on. At a given weight fighters will cut from a range.
We really don't have to speculate. We saw on embedded that Conor was 171 when he fought both Dustin and Khabib at LW. He was obviously smaller during his FW run, making 165-170 accurate - likely closer to the lower than the upper margin.
I know from a first hand source how much Volkanovski was cutting during his title run. 165-170. That's simply the size of the largest FWs. The largest LWs get up to 180lbs. Dustin was apparently 180lbs agaisnt Conor at LW. Which ironic given the complaint that Conor was naturally bigger than the guys he fought at FW - one of whom was Dustin.
Eddie was supposedly 175lbs in the cage. He may not have been the best LW ever. But he was the incumbent at the time. You can only beat the guy holding the belt. Conor got the shot on the back of holding the FW belt, not LW credentials. The same as MAx and Volks who both took shots at LW.
I just don’t see that LW win v Eddie as anything great.
I assume you didn't watching then. It's generally considered Conor's overall best performance in the octagon and the end of the era. Eddie may not have been a long standing champ. But he had just beat RDA. Many many people wrote Conor off. Either way, people expected a close fight. The dominance was was sets it out as a big win. Not Eddies career since then.
Aldo and Topuria have both been bantamweights. Volkanovski is 5ft 6, at a push. Tiny lads.
McGregor beat Siver and Mendes, both 5ft 6 aswell.
Alvarez was small too. Here they are in bare feet. Apparently Eddie is 5ft 9. 😃
Mad that maybe the biggest sports star in the world has one victory between the ages of 28 and 36.
I think Conor was more an exception in the point I made. He was a very big FW. He was even a decent sized LW. I think he was bigger than the undisputed lads you have named. More closer to LW than any a them
My point was more to do with his move to LW to fight Eddie isn’t all that impressive. Few reasons:
Conor a natural LW really, and Eddie pretty much same natural size (and not the best champion); as well as Conor getting a title shot with no real LW pedigree/results.
Respectfully, showing your ignorance a bit there. MMA is not boxing. Weight cutting to that extent is part of the sport.
Big FWs are 165-170, that's normal. Conor was not doing anything anyone else was not. LWs are bigger again. Cutting weight is not easy and cutting too much is likely a net negative. This has been pointed out a lot on here.
There have been 5 undisputed FW champions: Aldo, Conor, Max, Volkanovski and Topuria. They all cut similar weight and walk to the cage at 165-170, as do most FWs.
that lucky punch dropped multiple others too. just because it happened in the first 10 seconds doesn’t make it lucky
Never defended a belt in the UFC, that's lame,he's a disgrace to Ireland,sucker punching an old man in a pub
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