Just found the above chart backing up what I have been saying for years.
Global warming is a wholly natural event, if humanity disappeared tonight, global warming would still happen.
The ridiculously cold weather we are getting at the moment must be a massive kick in the sack for the Green lunatics. They will have had all sorts of stories of doom at the ready, red scary weather charts, and that annoying ex FG guy on RTE who now does the climate stuff ready to tell us we are days away from death and destruction unless we start paying more tax, cut out meat and cycle 90klms to work oh and not forgetting staying a tent in Donegal in the pi ssings of rain for your annual holiday.
Not to worry Greenies, i'm sure there are a few hot sunny days on the horizon and you'll be back in business in no time.
Still a couple weeks left in the month, it could break records yet...
only records being broken are how badly the Greens across Europe are being flogged by the electorates of 27 countries
If we could scale vertical farming or aquatic farming, switch to renewable energies, reduce sprawl, use synthetic meats and protect nature properly then earth could support many billions more. Which would be beautiful in terms of cultural and technological output if those extra people were given a decent life and upbringing
Hope is not a strategy. In the meanwhile, it gets hotter and more crowded. Fact
Your just displaying your ignorance of the complexity of climate. Well done.
Weather is not climate.
But when it's hot weather you guys come out of the woodwork with the fear, funny that.
People who understand climate talk about climate, those who dont talk about weather.
Any extreme weather event (extreme heat or cold, rain, snow) becomes more likely in a climate change scenario. Global warming causes climate change.
You see it's really simply when you try.
You still aren't getting it. Weather is not climate. A y-o-y rise in temperatures is climate. A warm day in Dublin is weather. A bad storm is weather. An increase in the number and intensity of storms over a long period of time, is climate.
And, as I recall, the yearly records are done up in the spring and announced then. When it's not warm yet.
It is a more likely and feasible plan than forcing people to not have children
By what metric? Birth control has been around for decades and works. Versus fantasy-rainbow 'farm the ocean' nonsense that's been proposed for decades as well, with no progress.
Glad you agree it's getting hotter, nothing you propose will change that.
At this point, though, it's actually too late for any of this. Having fewer children means fewer poor souls who had no choice in the matter get to live in an environmentally damaged world. More crowder/hotter/more weather-related natural disasters, with looming big scary things like ocean acidification (so much for farming it), perhaps big weather changes due to impacts on ocean currents, more flooding, etc.
The fact people are turning off the green message because it's depressing. It's like society replaced the misery of Catholicism with environmental doomerism.
A sunny day is to be enjoyed, it's not a preface for a depressing tirade from Greenies.
None of us will live to see any of this. Just enjoy your life.
I dont think it is that the message is depressing. It is more that people want to do what they know they really should be doing but dont want to give up the easy conveniences. Everyone with a bit of cop knows that the science is true but having to walk or cycle to the shops isn't as comfortable as driving there
As for your quip about a sunny day - learn the difference between weather and climate!
Probably. Though I wouldn't invest in seafront property on the Marshall islands.
I agree, enjoy your life. Just don't inflict it on another person. It's way too late to change anything, and the 'green' message is probably worse overall, as it doesn't discourage overpopulation. Carbon credits are a joke, renewables only interesting to keep the costs down, but as long as demand keeps growing, climate will only get hotter and the weather worse as a result.
Yeah this week is called weather, remember we can't call it climate til we get a couple of 30C days in July.
Only then can we deploy the alarmist tax vessel. Water is next. Then come 2040 we'll be onto oxygen.
I chime with everything you said, expect the last line, which is exactly the po faced condescension that's turning people off.
I know weather isn't climate, but many greenies don't. A stretch of sunny days is often hailed as proof of climate change.
It's boring. I used to enjoy nature programs, but don't bother anymore because now they all come with the same "if we all don't just kill ourselves right this instant the earth will not survive!".
Funny, I spent most of Covid and beyond watching all of Attenboroughs 'the life of <…>' and he doesn't say anything like that.
The denier technique is based around overexaggeration of what's being said. Plus greenies (don't burn turf! carbon credits!) don't do science particularly well. Doesn't mean the real scientists don't.
That level of complacency will get you killed. Many people are already dead from the consequences of global warming.
Climate is the rate of change over an averaged period of 30years. It's a measure of trend in weather change and various climate indexes. So what it does in July doesn't matter a **** to climate.
how many exactly?
Come on, use the science, be exact.
A bit of a facecious point there.
I am speaking in the context of modern media climate alarmism.
When cold; Climate is based on a period of 30 years. When hot; Climate is based on a period of 3 days, queue Eamon calling for stone age living. George Lee has the segment ready to go the week our temps hit 30C.
Firstly I'm not trying convert you or anyone else. The facts are out there and we all know them. Climate change is happening. Ireland's weather has been predicted to get slightly warmer but a lot wetter. Greece isn't closing public places for the craic. Much of S Europe is facing water shortages. The likes of Pakistan's average temperature is expected to rise at a rate higher than the global average so we (a global "we") can expect a lot more refugees moving due to the effects.
Climate change will affect everyone's lives and none of it will be for the better. We all know this but in the developed world we really couldn't be arsed doing too much about it if it means that our comforts and conveniences are affected.
FWIW, your flippant remark about a sunny day was simply aimed at belitteling the facts because you already know that you cannot disprove them.
I'd agree that the constant news of it is depressing but only because deep down mankind doesn't care and isn't prepared to make the sacrifices necessary to change it.
We are polluting more than ever, despite the doomsday warnings. And it's only going to get worse.
Don't you know we love economic growth, huge companies expanding, cheap goods being shipped across the world etc. Consumerism is the new god and it isn't going away.
A species that knows that it is taking steps to help make itself extinct, then continues down that path, is beyond help.
The human race will survive, there will just be less of them about.
I certainly don't see that, but it seems to be a common talking point among climate deniers.
Wave your hands around a bit more there.
Climate is real, but this blanket application of it to all circumstances is like cult thinking.
So the Indians dying in exceptional 50c heat the moment are imaginary. 50c is both unusual for India and the point at which humans start to die in numbers. 50c temps are becoming the summer norm in parts of India.
But have Indians, or other races, ever died in 50c heat before?
Is this only a recent phenomenon?
That's your science?
You understand people built underground dwellings to escape such heat millennia before the Greenies took to the pulpit with their doomer cult?
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