Separate discussion for the EU election results.
Obviously some very strong personal support there. Family connections ?
It's the only area we saw these posters , and thought it was funny .
She is originally from Glasnevin afaik .
Everyone knows it's quite possible he'll lose a seat, but there are no facts or votes to back statements like that yet - they are just guesses.
FG were at 25% in a recent Dublin poll which is fantastic and as its only Regina no ticket splitting silliness.
I called it in the other forum she was safe due to that rather than her been outstanding.
Yeah - saw them too, it was a bit presumptious, no photo on them either - actually I had no clue who 'Regina' was initially. She is hardly in that 'Mary Lou' category of instantly recognisable by first name alone.
Well its obviously possible - but thats quite different from saying he is 'toast'.
Yeah we were initially a bit nonplussed as so many posters between locals and EPs.
But the stars and the blue background finally gave it away ;)
Very 'Irish Times' commentary there at 14.46:
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/06/08/local-european-election-results-votes-count-live-news-updates/
what they describe as a detailed report for Dublin City Council covers Pembroke, South East Inner City, South West Inner City, Kimmage-Rathmines and Ballyfermot-Drimnagh.
There is a Northside to the city too Irish Times…..
The fight for the last 2 Dublin seats will be epic, left/Green very transfer friendly which may hurt Niall Boylan's chances
Is there a serious question over the other Boylan?
Niall boylans transferability is very much in doubt from count center reports.
It may come down to Boylan v Boylan, depending how (if she's eliminated ahead of Lynn Boylan) Brid Smith's votes transfer I would think
Maybe they just count faster Southside?
(I live Northside myself)
there were several candidates for dublin who don't live in dublin - i think i saw mayo listed for one?
I hope not 🙁
Yes I thought Sunday also for this counting
Yeah they can't give a tally until 10pm this evening as there's still MEP voting happening in other countries. Any of the reports we've had I'm guessing we're from watching the seperstion of local. And mep ballots and observing 1st preferences vs transfers.
Who will top poll in MNW?
Probably Ming
or maria walsh
Getting ahead of myself here I know, but given the huge constituencies and huge ballot papers for the European election, and I remember a recount 5 years ago that would’ve taken weeks if the candidate hadn’t accepted defeat, is there anything to be said for having e-voting for these elections? Doubt any politician would dare suggest it, they’d be eaten alive by the media. It’d have to come from an EU order. It would make things much simpler. Keep the pencil and paper for everything else but I don’t think too many would object to it for the election of 13 odd people to European.
First time in our area Sinn Fein won’t be on council for nearly 20 years .. two well established councillors lose seats .. it was always the case people here voted for the person and not the party as the two county counsellors did a lot for our area .. one unknown independent and one new social democrat take their place..
with the fears of russian interference, and lack of an auditing trail - the several week long dance is by far the lesser of two evils.
This is heartening to read. Europe desperately needs a correction to the right before it's too late.
https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2024/0609/1453787-european-election-right/
Or just simplify it. No over quota transfers. Just work through eliminations.
That's not really simplifying it so much as radically changing it though.
Interesting video. When we had the trial of e-voting here in 2002 all the voting machines were gathered up and brought to the count centre, connected up and the results were out by half 12 that night. Using stand alone machines, not connecting them to the internet, etc mitigates some of the points he made but still leaves a lot of risk in the e-voting system. Software obsolescence seems to be the biggest issue.
It is still PR, it is still a single transferrable vote. People would still vote in same way, marking preferences on a paper ballot. Many people wouldn't even notice or appreciate the difference, and even among those who do, many like me wouldn't see it as any kind of radical change.
I think would have more chance of passing muster than trying to resurrect e-voting.
Ming will probably receive the most votes on the first count but won't be elected first
Very transfer friendly though
Of course we should be using E voting machines but sure then the anoraks in the media couldn't spend a week talking sh1te
I'm not entirely sure what massive benefit it is supposed to bring but it would be less representative given someone getting over the quota essentially "loses" their surplus votes. It would hit the establishment parties more which perhaps some people might care less about but it's a fundamental change in the system for a questionable, if any, benefit.
