I thought it might be useful to create a new thread to comment and analyse the Local Election results.
RTE Live Tracker here:
https://www.rte.ie/news/elections-2024/2024/0608/1453671-tracker-elections/
Looks like the FG & FF doing better than expected, Lab & Greens not facing wipeout either. SF must be disappointed.
Pr-stv has always favoured incumbents and parties, the bigger the better. An Independent needs massive personal recognition, like the healy raes in order to be successful
Without party strategy, too many similar independents or personalities with limited local appeal run. They then don't transfer to each other and ultimately the votes end up with the largest parties.
As you point out though, the egos prevent these similar candidates merging under one banner and getting behind one or two candidates
Looks like SF candidates will be scrambling to make the final few seats in a lot of places after multiple counts.
However as we know from 2020 SF voters told us all that anyone not elected on the first count is illegitimate. Looking forward to see how they spin this one.
To be honest if the Healy Raes were running where I live I'd vote for them. They do a huge amount of local work on the ground while some of the main party candidates disappear once they are elected and only re-emerge in the run up to the next election.
The work ethic of the Healy Raes is incredible , they get results for people, that counts.
In Local Elections, are they running in both?
looks like the usuals FF, FG and SF doing well, it could be that the many independent candidates are just spread far far too thin
they will have to check their egos at the door and rapidly merge if they have any chance at success in the general election
if harris has any sense he will call the election early this year if FG has a good showing in the local elections
Or you could look at it another way,we just got rid of them,they can squawk all they like in europe,nobody will care.
I don't understand the hold the Healy Raes have over the people of Kerry. I heard 7000 were added to the voting register since March. It appears the Healy Raes are encouraging new immigrants to vote.
It would be very hard for SF to do worse than 2019 but we shall see. It's the first time ever they have ever run a candidate in each LEA.
The real winners look like Independents.
I'm sure a handful of the swivel eyed loons will get in, the rest can return to harassing ordinary people and crying about the 'establishment'.
I'm most interested in how SF will do, they had a bad run out in 2019 and up to a year ago were looking like they'd be going into this election on a high - Will they now be happy to do a little better than 2019? Will they do better than 2019?
No seat for Ruth Coppinger in Castleknock it seems.
Find the delusion of some people running locally hilarious. One candidate in my LEA, PBP of course, whose sole aim seemed to be legalising drugs, tallied 110. Another, who did dismally for the Greens last time, has done so again.
Why put yourself through the embarassment? Have they no support network to tell them to perhaps not go through the hassle?
FYI, I don't think any counting has happened anywhere yet, it's all tallies. To echo what's been said, looks like incumbancy is a big help for sitting councillors. I heard Jackie Healy Rae (Michael's son) tallied over 30% which is pretty amazing.
Would be great if people could start adding links to tallies, updates, counts etc from around the country.
For Sligo/Leitrim the local radio station Ocean FM has the great info inc Google sheets for tallies updated in real time, and 3 separate live streams for each of the count centres, Donegal being the 3rd.
https://www.oceanfm.ie/local-elections-2024-count/
Wicklow tallies based on 35% of the boxes opened,courtesy of S Kearon
Just going on the tallies being announced on newstalk the Green Party wipe out doesn’t seem to be happening. The FG side seem happy based on the tallies.
Seems people are voting for stability in unstable times. Still early in the counts though.
Tallies showing that Green Party candidate Michael Pidgeon is said to be “sweeping” the South West Inner City LEA.
Meanwhile, the Greens’ Claire Byrne is leading across several ballot boxes in the South East Inner City.
Excellent. I really hope we keep a few Green councillors. I am in Spain currently and couldn't vote am pretty gutted about it.
Newstalk saying that from the tallies in cork city, it’s looking like the sitting councillors are doing well.
I hope all far right lunatics including babers/so-called 'pro-lifers' and anti-migrant fanatics do not get elected …. they have not one positive thing to offer …. they have nothing to solve our REAL problems …. all they can do is spout anti-migrant, anti-gay and anti-EU drivel ….. they would destroy the economy of this country in months if they gained power …. Good to see so far in tallies they are indeed not doing well at all …
I'd say it wouldn't be a problem until the count reached your 12th preference and even then, you've clearly indicated your next order of preference. If you had filled in 2 x 13 or something, I'd expect it to be spoiled once it reached that count though
A question about valid/spoiled votes, If there are, say, 26 candidates and you undertake the heroic task of ranking all 26, there is some chance that you will make a mistake. Suppose you get 1 to 11 done and then in searching the blank spaces for yourremaining and probably weak preferences you omit a No 12. You have votes marked 13 to 25.
Is the whole ballot paper invalid, or is it treated as a 1 to 11 vote, with the remainder ignored (or invalid)?
Apparently a significant number of spoiled votes in some areas - ticks next to the candidates rather than numbered.
Tally from Dingle LEA - high turnout
or underwhelmed by the quality ?
So the Dublin contingent will be Daly, AOR, Smith & Lynn Boylan? No FF, FG or Niall Boylan?
This is a local elections thread...
Niall Boylan looking like being elected. Clare Daly Out.
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