Where? And Who?
"Re-Turn. But not now. Or now. Or now. Or now. OK, NOW!"
Not quite.
We have had numerous claims about bin charges going up because of DRS.
Despite repeated requests nobody has produced a bill itemising the amount of increase due to DRS.
So we don't actually know.
Would anyone be able to put a figure on providing a separate brand new bin to every house in the country ?
Plus we need an estimate for converting all the bin trucks.
If we can get all that information together then we might be able to decide what is a no brainer.
And don't forget that only covers cans/bottles that are used in private homes
Interesting aspect on the Border retailers!
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/re-turn-scheme-creating-chaos-for-border-county-shop-owners-as-cans-and-bottles-cheaper-in-north/ar-BB1npfJu?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=eb36ab97019d403ea2df11747581006e&ei=16
Thread freezing… I post on another few threads and all posts are showing up on time and available to read. It seems it is only this thread experiencing problems. Mods?
I use the one in Tesco.
Occasionally it has an issue with a can / bottle but putting it back in resolved the issue. I also double check that the can / bottle has the logo, a couple of times a can/ bottle was rejected and it didn’t have the logo.
I return these when doing my weekly shop, so don’t buy anything additional to use them so store not making any more money out of me that they would have. they just come off my bill.
Can this thread be closed down and a V2 version of it started, the site simply can't handle the numbers of posts in the thread.
I return my cans, but I hate it.
I only use it on Sunday as getting in there first thing in the morning when no que is there.
On a mention of voucher is they take it when scanned at the till so it can only be used once or were they trying to scan it twice on same till ?
And I remember pro-Return posters in the early days of the scheme being very dismissive of the notion that people would have to queue for any appreciable amount of time, or the machines being out of order for any appreciable notion of time. It was obvious bunkum, obvious this sort of thing was going to happen.
The thread is so broken that I get a quote notification, try go to it and get told the post doesn't exist, cause its in the magic hidden bit we won't get to see until there's a few dummy posts made.
Guess I'll just have to get them under the counter.
I imagine this has already been answered in this thread, but who gets the money for cans and bottles not returned.
Long before it appeared on the papers I quoted here before not to use at the weekends was an issue from the start.
After the last few gaa matches in thurles a few young lads are making their way into the grounds toward the end of matches with black bins bags to collect . At least someone else is benefiting apart from return
Selling them without complaint labels has been illegal for decades - contact details, ingredients, allergen data etc. The re-turn logo is just another thing that they need to have.
That most places completely ignored the law before isn't legally relevant.
Everything can be done via sticker; you don't need to actually make Ireland specific packaging.
The whole point of getting them from the Polish shops is that the producers were not producing the non chemical stuff for the Irish market. There was nowhere else to get them.
Will there be a reduction now in choice as other (maybe smaller) producers decide its not worth creating separate batches of packaging for the Irish market - I'm thinking of the obscure fizzy drinks you'd see in some health food shops.
I didn't know they were going to ban all other non return cans. I thought you just wouldn't get money back for them.
So from now, drinks cans and plastic bottles have to have the ireland re turn logo on them.
So that prevents businesses shopping around for the best deal on those products.
But this doesn't apply to glass bottles, glass jars, food cans etc so businesses can still do that for those products.
It's not like we are a population of 60 million, the cost of having 'special' labels for special case 4million ish population Ireland must be enormous.
Makes no sense. It's just isolating that industry even more.
Had an issue in Supervalu recently where I was trying to use a voucher that was over 30 days old. Automatic till told me the voucher had already been used. Till assistant then did everything he could to embarass me when I asked for assistance. Eventually he gave me the cash amount from another till.
Cost of waste collectoon went up because of this so. No brainer
From today all cans on the market will have to have Re-turn logo + barcode registered to DRS.
A deposit will have to be charged.
If the importer complies they can continue to be sold.
If they import them properly - register the barcode, put a logo sticker on (they already legally must put stickers with the ingredients, allergens etc in English but rarely if ever do that) - they're still legal.
I like to get coke from the Polish shops because they actually have suger and not the chemical shite that most soft drinks turned into after the sugar tax.
Will those cans be gone now under threat of prosecution?
I don't mind not getting the money back if I can have a decent soft drink every so often.
TYFYS.
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Sorry, I haven't seen any information about the financial arrangements for charity collections.
It's only being piloted this weekend at Bloom.
https://www.bordbiabloom.com/sustainability-at-bloom/
It's fairly obvious really.
If you think the charity is worth supporting you give them the cash if you don't you hold on to it for yourself.
A bit like the loose change in your pocket on a flag day.
And will those collection trucks be free?
No.
Probably use the same trucks that are collecting from shops.
They'd be processed as manual returns IE. counted.
That idea of a separate bin was discussed before.
You'd need another bin delivered to every house.
Also all the bin trucks would have to be adapted to ensure separation.
The cost of all that would land with the customer.
Then you have the problem that such a system would only be available to people with bin contracts.
Fcuk sake. Let you do all the mullocking then give them to cash. Why would you bother at all.