bump
Groundhog Day
Obviously, as you would expect, an upbeat piece from Ciaran Foley in the Indo to mark the end of the transition period.
https://m.independent.ie/business/irish/putting-bottles-and-cans-into-the-general-recycling-bin-is-not-just-wasteful-its-throwing-your-money-away/a996991682.html
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Why wouldn't you put cans in the green bin?
store i work & where a friend work have decided to keep selling whatever stock is left even after june 1st. highly doubt re-turn or whoever the hell is gonna bother checking places anyway
That’s my point. We’re being screwed left, right and centre.
MUP doesn't go to the manufacturer, it goes to the seller.
With the machines not working 100%, there's not always a "choice".
As long as there is you have two choices either get your deposit back or leave it to Re-turn.
MUP is a totally different kettle of fish and a way of robbing us with no chance of refund but I'm sure you already know that.
They get a processing fee. And for the first three years there is a sliding scale of other payments available to traders who go below set volumes of returns.
How much of that €23.40 will be going to the manufacturer because of the equally ridiculous MUP??
There shouldn't be a deposit being paid to a private company in the first place.
This is a fundamental point for people deciding how to proceed with the scheme.
If you don't retrieve the deposit you are losing real money.
Earlier today there was some reaction to the idea of me going to some trouble to reclaim 45 cent.
If I lost 45 cent every week it would add up to €23.40 per year.
I can buy a bottle of whiskey for €23.40.
Personally I'd rather enjoy that bottle than gift the €23.40 to Re-turn.
Meaning that you're paying twice for the "privilege" of having a private company's waste recycled for them, simply because you wanted a drink of something.
Machines generally out of order in a few places today.
No reason for a retailer to keep them functioning I suppose.
No excuse for this now that the system has bedded in.
If their card machines went down the problem would be fixed instantly.
Totally sound in environmental terms.
The civic amenity site is on my route to the store where I do the weekly shop.
No extra journey and the cans were separated from other materials.
I never put a can in my green bin preferring to separate them and put them in the can bin at the civic amenity centre so it's not a big inconvenience to put them in the RVM.
Hardly environmental is it? Much like this scam.
Driving to a civic centre where there was a perfectly good option outside your front door that was carbon neutral to get to.
I expected a DRS system because seeing the system working it made sense to me.
I was attracted by the idea of putting a value on something that was hitherto mixed with general waste, contaminated in green bins or just littered and fly tipped.
All plastic including pet bottles always went in the green bin because that was the best option available.
Now there is a better option for pet bottles I'm using it.
I don't bring recycling around for the day, if a can fails to pay out I keep it and try again next time I'm at an RVM.
Currently after four months I have one pet bottle at home to go to the RVM and thanks to a few pick ups and some gifted cans I am up about €6.
Like I said before this is not a big deal for me, in short personally I can manage it.
I'm not making little of other people's problems nor am I ignoring the shortcomings of the scheme which I have addressed in many other posts.
And therefore pay twice, for your green bin and your deposit goes to the quango who, mandated by the government and a monopoly refuses to release figures for returns and their director remunerations. Win Win for them, Lose Lose for you.
You can put it in your green bin though you will lose your deposit.
bump ffs
