Bork. Sorry, think i broke the thread again
Many years ago, it would have made sense here too. Many years ago, irelands answer to recycling was everything in a black bag and left on the street for a big truck to eat. Thats not all that long ago.
Since then, ireland went down a different path and was very succesful in it with a hugely progressive approach to recycling which took years to develop.
On the go products are a problem, partly due to a lack of council provided bins, rubbish and recycling, in public places. Also largely due to ignorant muppets who dump, and will continue to do so regardless.
To address this small (in the scheme of volumes recycled way) , they took a sledgehammer to it and managed to destroy public confidence in the recycling agenda, encourage damage to the environment with needless journeys, fuel, time, platic bag use, black bin dumping of rejected items, etc.
They've given two fingers to large minority groups who have publicly asked "what about us" and there are no answers forthcoming.
We have a significant price increase in items that we buy every day, even including the purchase of water, one of the basic human rights. All of this during a cost of living crisis.
Recycling companies must surely be asking why they bother, when the most lucrative part of their business can be just swiped from them on a whim.
They made an utter balls of the launch.
They will take a minimum of a quarter of a BILLION euro, directly from our pockets every year with the blessing of the government.
And they think they are entitled to refuse to release how much they are paying themselves.
Oh, and they are all apparently vested interests involved.
And sorry @elperello for quoting your entire post, i just mean to reference the years ago in germany part. I enjoy reading your balanced posts on this and am glad to see you have a positive experience, as we all should.
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You must have a short memory. The changeover was about the world cup final with England. The site was down for over a weeks if not longer and was soo bad. Loads of patches and locked threads of what to do. Made it somewhat usable. The soccer forum was a disaster for the longest time
Maybe it's as normal as bringing bottles to a bottle bank and separating them
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I never (or very rarely) buy individual cans/bottles in the shop but I bought a 1 litre bottle of orange juice last weekend and saw on my receipt when I got home that the tax had been applied. I'm obviously not going to bring one bottle back to one of the machines once it's finished, it's still ok to recycle in the bin at home, I presume? I'm not really getting the whole system unless you buy a s**tload of cans/bottles every week.
Stuck
Bump time.
Why would you expect a DRS? Were you not happy with the convenience of placing your rubbish perfectly into a dustbin feet from your home? What part of that made you think, you know what we need a bloated expensive mess to achieve what I had already been doing perfectly well that was convenient to me.
Also bringing your waste shopping or around with you for the day is not an ordinary everyday task nor should it ever be. It's bonkers.
Particularly when you are forced to do it not because of the environment but to solely enrich a quango with absolutely no independent oversight which insisted on having cans added to the scheme so they could sell them.
But come on, even on a fundamental level this scheme is an absolute pain in the hole even if it was good for the environment and not just green washing and green theatre.
Mark my words- the level of refund will decrease overtime after retailers go crying to the government about the extra work and we’ll all then have to give the retailer a “processing” fee
Well if we are talking personally I would have expected a DRS system in Ireland before 2019.
I first used an RVM in Germany many years ago and thought it made sense.
I wasn't actually posting "gleefully".
If you read back you'll see I just described my experience without much comment.
That's all it was to me just an ordinary everyday task.
A bit of extra inconvenience is all.
My local shop has 2 RVMs, but does not have a green or even black bin next to it. If it did, I would engage in the DRS Russian Roulette when I occasionally go to the shop. Bring my cans with me, and either I get some money back, or if they get rejected or the machine is offline, I put them in the green bin. The absence of any bin there means my cans and bottles just go into the green bin at home.
Think about it, 5 years ago would you or I be gleefully posting that the thread on Boards was working properly again?
The human race is not progressing technologically, we are regressing.
Our local one not working yet again according to my wife last night. She just chucked them in the bin outside the shop. Life is too short for that kind of crap.
Not for long I imagine.
But think about it.
5 years ago did you ever think you would be declaring gleefully on the internet that you manged to find a working bin after bringing your rubbish shopping just so you could get your 45 cent back in paper form?
It's rather mental, isn't it? When you think about it like.
A scheme designed for on the go litter collection, you have to bring your litter on the go in an attempt to find a working bin, which would have been safely placed in your own bin at home a few months ago.
Great to see the thread back to normal and everyone getting on.
I'm not concerned.
You have normalised bringing your waste shopping with you. A nice little day out for it. It is not normal nor should it ever be.
But if you are happy, I say good for you.
And got 45 cent for the privilege. No thanks.
That's actually been attributed to the price hike they added to Coke, rather than the DRS scheme, hasn't it?
Three dry cans in a bag hanging on that handy little hook on the 🛒.
No yuck involved but thanks for your concern anyway.
You carried around rubbish with you doing your shopping?
Yuck.
Safely put away with the store card.
Thrift is my middle name 🙂
Now you have to remember to use the voucher next time - I've already got LIDL ones I'm bound to forget.
Anyway back to DRS.
I was going into a shop yesterday and the two machines were out of commission.
Got the shopping and on the way out a young lad was emptying them.
When he got one going I put three cans into it and got a voucher for 45 cent.
I know "man bites dog" !!
The recent software upgrades made the site unusable for a few weeks, but I'm a masochist, I held on. The major teething issues got resolved then this issue pops up. I have enough sources of irritation in my life without boards becoming non-functioning as well!
Imagine if this sort of thing happened for this length of time just after the change over? I think its only that the few remaining regulars are prepared to put up with this crap that there is anyone still here at all?
Not just this thread.
And then when you do actually manage to get the thread going, clicking on it constantly brings you to where it was previously stuck, so you have to scroll down to find the next new post.
@Boards.ie: Mike anything being done about this which seems to be affecting more and more threads as time goes on…..
I think we're back.
