discuss here.
Rewatching it, I'm amazed that after that Dan Sheehan break, firstly that Roumat sticking his hand out is considered a fair attempt to catch the ball. It's a fully extended straight arm and hits it down. He doesn't even juggle it. Secondly, it's not considered a knock-on, although that is more marginal but it's clear to me that the ball goes forward from his hands then bounces backwards. Add that it's a potential try scoring opportunity. Yellow card all day imo. Very lucky. If you remove Roumat altogether if after his foul play, there's even an argument for a penalty try but it's tenuous as there is cover. I'm biased though of course.
Carleys performance added to the spectacle!!! Go!!!
I find myself deeply sanguine about these kind of things. It would be one thing if it caused Doris to go off, but I just struggle to get too het up about a missed decision that ultimately didn't impact the game. "We would have won if they got a red card in the 1st minute" isn't an interesting hypothetical to me.
Comparing rugby to soccer is a bad start. Rugby is a game where it's expected that everybody has respect for one another.
Thats the difference. I'm over 40 years following, and playing for 23, rugby and there was never any of this shouting for a foreign team against an Irish team. This is a new enough thing and these people were not rugby first people is my guess. They came from playing and/or supporting other sports and brought this hate element with them. We don't need that in rugby.
With the utmost respect, go back to those other sports if you want to act that way.
The sad reality it that it would have been reviewed and a good chance of a red if Doris had stayed down. At what stage do players start staying down football style if these aren’t picked up by the officials? I’d suspect Liam Williams for example would probably have chosen not to get up if he had been in the same situation. Interesting to see if this will be cited.
Demanding? I haven't heard or seen that.
Not Sure anyones mentioned hating have they? I just dont support leinster
i certainly wouldn't be saying that to Matfields face 😂
speaking of legends, emile ntamack was out and about with fans over the weekend, and that guy is still ridiculous ripped !!
This "why isn't everyone supporting Leinster" stuff is mind numbing. Why does anyone even care about this? Drop it and move on, bring the discussion back to the game please.
Yes, of course they are. They are obviously not made public.
I will readily admit I don't really understand why Carley gets any high priority matches as I think he is just a pretty poor ref but c'est la vie. My Luke Pearce fanboyism will just have to take a backseat to those who make the actual decisions.
For a second there I read that as Victor Matfield. I was like WTH is syd going on about.
It's all rather immature IMHO. 'Hating' and revelling in the defeat of others. It doesn't reflect well on the individual. Although it makes it easier to separate the wheat from the chaff in regard to some posters
Did you meet any Castres fans
Are refs performances reviewed? It's unbelievable how bad they were
Leinster and Ireland are different things, vastly,
you don’t see United fans cheering for Liverpool in Europe because they have English players
We had Clermont fans with us in the ground cheering for Leinster because that’s how rivalry works.
Some Leinster fans are the only who have this need to be loved, it makes no sense
That's a really bad miss by the refs.
By that logic, we would all support Leinster in every game including against our home province because them winning is good for the ireland team, because they have most of the players. There's either a difference between club and country, or not.
I don't beieve that !
Its not hypocritical at all.
And most people don't despise the players. You can not like a team, while actually liking some or most of the players on that team.
You can appreciate that players are very good individually while still wanting their team to lose. It's a competition.
The worst thing that happens to some Munster players, is when they go away to irish camp, get to be friends with Leinster players as individuals, and then when Leinster come to town, they forget that their job as Munster players is to make their lives a misery and make them hate playing against them for that 80 minutes. (within the laws, or close enough to them)
Thats unfair they just lost a final who wouldn't be bitter
https://www.planetrugby.com/news/jack-willis-lucky-to-avoid-red-card-after-early-clash-with-caelan-doris-in-champions-cup-final
Didn't see this myself at the game, and not remotely surprised it wasn't reviewed or discussed, but fair to say it would have had a game changing impact had it been, given just how influential Willis was.
It's literally the first tackle of the game, so kind of hard to know how all of the referee, TJs and TMO didn't see it.
It's obvious, high, no real attempt to wrap, and not the messiest of situations that sometimes provides mitigation. Pretty hard not to see it as a red card, albeit Carley never would have given it inside the opening 2 mins.
Victor Meldrew could suck a thousand lemons and he still wouldn't be as sour and bitter as some posters in this thread.
JGP could go and play a J4s match, and he still wouldn't be as dominant as Dupont was on Saturday
I am sure English and French rugby fans support there national teams and do not support those players when playing for a club.
Tulouses rivals I say weren't supporting them maybe wanting to see Leinster win
Leinster is not Ireland.
No their playing for different teams why would it be
Some people confuse "fan" as in "fanatical supporter" (or maybe "the sh1t hit the fan"!) with plain "supporter".
It's 100% appropriate for "fans" to dislike their rivals, whereas most supporters really couldn't care less what their neighbours get up to.
Christ, between this and the Ireland thread can someone do us a favour and nuke the forum
Do you not think that supporting a bunch of Leinster players in a green shirt and then despising them in a blue shirt is hypocritical?
Ntamack was Toulouse's OH @ 20 and for France @ 21, time to give Sam Prendergast his head and let him start more games.
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