Because they are set up for the producers and retailers. You are not their customer. There job is to protect their clients. Which are the retailers and producers.
This in a lot of businesses would be called knowingly fraudulently trading, the law should be on to them.
Anyone that likes weird drinks that lives around Breathnachs in Old Bawn...
24 cans of cherry coke zero - €12.
24 cans of old jamaica ginger beer - €10.
No deposit charged but the cans scan in the barcode checker so €3.60 off.
What's worse the drs or this site
You know you can return the bottle any time you like, to any location you like that has a RVM?
I just collect mine in a bag, when it's full throw it in the car, and next time I'm shopping somewhere that has a machine I get a few quid off that shop.
But the scheme has been very effective in my case because I'm now actively avoiding plastic containers that have the deposit attached, and the above scenario has happened once so far!
Sorry to say………was on holidays and just back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know you can return the bottle any time you like, to any location you like that has a machine?
I collect them in a bag, when it's full I throw it in the car, and next time I'm shopping somewhere that has a machine I get a couple of quid off that shop.
But the scheme has been very effective in my case as that has happened only once so far. I now actively avoid buying containers the have the deposit attached.
Absolutely! treating people like $h1t inevitably brings out the rebel in them.
to answer my own question. Applegreen in Dublin on the Swords road just pass the M50 flyover. They give you cash if you use the machine in there
Seriously, this thread is soooooo out of Sync it's ridiculous at this stage. Close it altogether and be done with it.
Can it not be fixed?
Re-Turn should be reading this thread and getting their act together. This scheme is dog sh!t for the environment, customer, shop staff and those already recycling at home using a green/blue wheelie bin.
Out of sync with just what? Not out of sync with public opinion anyway.
That's the sort of idea you'd expect from a vested interest?
At a technical level, the thread keeps getting stuck when it rolls over onto a new page and it goes into a limbo where you can't see new posts until more are posted. What it shares with Re-turn is that it is a PITA.
I'm on about the fact I keep getting notifications of new posts but when I check there's nothing new, sometimes when I open it I'm brought to posts that are days old and they appear as the last post in the thread. It's a Boards IE site issue and has nothing to do with the topic under discussion.
Who are the Mods for this thread or @Boards.ie: Mike .
Somebody came up with a workaround for the glitch on another thread.
Can you close this thread and start another one. The posts from this thread can then be merged into the new thread if necessary. In theory that thread should carry on without getting stuck.
Get the civil unrest going now. It needs to be in the short term. Good citizens won't increase their dumping.
it’s mentioned in the bugs & issues thread in feedback, Mike says it’s to do with, you guessed it, a Boards plug-in for Vanilla. One thing is fixed, something else gives. They are pending a fix by Vanilla developers, but don’t you know something else will then give.
Everywhere has to.
I wonder how long will machines last because I have seen people putting cans in from which there was stuff dripping on the belt. Bottles with leftover drink still in them. Would be interesting when weather warms up as decomposing beer or cider does have certain unpleasant aroma. It is going to be irresistible for wasps and other insects. Perhaps it has something to do with rewilding…
It is a biatch to completely empty a can anyway and I am not seeing myself washing them since that would go against green "conserve da water" mantra.
Turning the can upside down will do the trick. If the weight of the can including liquid exceeds 100 grams, the machine will reject it. The shops should have a routine for keeping the machines clean.
"3.5 Weight Detection RVMs are only required to accept empty containers. To identify partially filled or fully filled containers, an RVM should use weight detection. This weight detection requires an accuracy of at least 95%. Containers should weigh no more than 100 grams including any excess liquid. If a container is identified as not empty, the container should be rejected."
https://re-turn.ie/wp-content/uploads/Cleaning-Process-Flow-EcoVend-RVM-Standard-and-X-Models-.pdf
The one thing I'd comment on is the supermarkets that have implemented the machines in outdoor spaces have clearly seen the system used elsewhere and have done it right. You can see that very definitely with how Aldi has implemented them in some of their sites - all very neat and tidy.
I can't see retailers continuing to keep the machines inside the front areas of stores. I've seen them in various Tescos e.g. the one on Prussia Street in Dublin or various Centras etc. They're both smelly and often extremely noisy as they crush and sort cans.
Definite this thread as it literally is full of snowflakes who seem to need their mammy to help them do anything very basic and then whine if things don't work absolutely perfectly
Yip, people should bring a tool kit with them and fix the machines.
Bloody snowflakes.
Ah Mr DRS, tis yerself!
and next time I'm shopping somewhere that has a machine I get a few quid off that shop.
Ahhh, you don't get a few quid off your shop, you get your money back.
The brain washing is complete, thank you for your compliance. Re-Chit-Ching!
you see I've lived in Germany and still go there regularly and have used this system long before it came here. I'm also old enough to remember bring glass bottles back for deposit refund in the 70's.
Today's snowflakes just seem to eb unable to grasp that sometimes you need to put a tiny weeny little effort into making life better for the future.
I've done 4 returns trips so far. No issue whatsoever. Zero rejects and really can't see why grown men seem to have such an issue with such a simple task.
do what they do in other countries - bring them back another day. Again a very very simple little task that probably is a bit difficult for some snowflakes
I used to live in the Czech Republic that also had a similar(but better) system. There I did a weekly trip to the RVM. It also took glass.
Since this came in here, out of 5 trips a grand total of 1 can has been accepted. I got a voucher for 15 cent which then would not scan in the shop.
So I have given up on the system and now everything just goes in my green bin.
So, you are another "I'm alright Jack". It has worked for you and so the hundreds of other people who have had problems, it is obviously a people problem. Nothing at all to do with a badly implemented, ill thought out system that only serves to line the pockets of the people who run it?
Grand.
grown men
Odd comment. What do gender and age have to do with a clearly poorly implemented RVM scheme?
You know what is a simple task?
Making some basic changes to sort out this scheme instead of leaving it to continue pilfering 10s of millions from the public.
I'm with you buddy. Not everyone is like you and me though, where we enjoy bringing our rubbish on day trips with us and be damn glad of it, I know, I don't understand them either.
It's a new logo FFS.
Again, snow flakes!
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wb.vanillicon.com/v2/b1aba361f5b77a8017be035a0d4fc285.svg)
