Half those things are illegal.
Migrants can not be guilty of "Insurrection" by definition so trying to use that act to detain them would be illegal.
He can't "Station troops from overseas at the border" , that's against the law, Posse Comitatus and all that.
He can't just "round them up and send them back" without due process , that's also against the law.
Also "Banning visas from countries whose "values" don't align with the US"? - What values don't align then?
What "Values" is he (or you) talking about here?
So you support his plans to break the law and do things expressly forbidden under the Constitution…
Hmmm…
Why are ye engaging with this charlatan?
They're an absolute spoofer who has no interest in debate at all. They do not deserve your time.
Can't even get the quote in his sig right.
There are issues with Boards (and this thread in particular) lately with new posts not showing up. The fault doesn't lie with bucketybuck.
Same reason I sometimes watch 23 men running around after a ball. It's fun :D
All very fascist policies
Don't say that! He'll want you to define to the nth degree what Fascism is.
But they aren't "the same" at all , and you know it.
Obama deported "criminal immigrants" , about 2.5M of them , Biden is doing the same.
That is, those guilty of felonies.
Being an illegal immigrant isn't a felony.
Trump want to summarily deport everyone regardless of whether they have committed a felony and without appropriate due process or consideration of asylum status etc.
Not the same at all.
Most of the polls show Biden winning.
Don't bother, they'll try and argue over what defines a 'poll' and will only accept what their definition of a poll is
It's incorrect to argue that only people who commit felony crimes are deported from the US.
There are many more reasons than that:
Deportation is the formal removal of a foreign national from another country. Typically, deportation occurs for violating an immigration law such as if the foreign national entered the country without proper authorization, violated the terms of their visa, or stayed in the country beyond the period of time that they were authorized to remain in the country. A country may also have policies and laws to deport foreign nationals who carry out criminal acts or are a threat to public safety. However, deportation is a civil, not a criminal proceeding.In the United States, the deportation process generally requires that the foreign national appear before an immigration judge prior to the removal process. While the foreign national awaits their date to appear before the judge, they may be held in a detention center.
Deportation is the formal removal of a foreign national from another country. Typically, deportation occurs for violating an immigration law such as if the foreign national entered the country without proper authorization, violated the terms of their visa, or stayed in the country beyond the period of time that they were authorized to remain in the country. A country may also have policies and laws to deport foreign nationals who carry out criminal acts or are a threat to public safety. However, deportation is a civil, not a criminal proceeding.
In the United States, the deportation process generally requires that the foreign national appear before an immigration judge prior to the removal process. While the foreign national awaits their date to appear before the judge, they may be held in a detention center.
Trump is not arguing for anything other than what has already happened in the country for decades — albeit it on a larger scale. Bill Clinton removed 12 million people, but nobody complained about that at the time.
This is my last go.
"Albeit on a larger scale". So if Trump wants to tell the population of New Mexico to drop the "New" from their address you would be ok with that?
watching someone actually play chess with a real pigeon would be more interesting.
" Trump is not arguing for anything other than what has already happened in the country for decades — albeit it on a larger scale. Bill Clinton removed 12 million people, but nobody complained about that at the time."
Alternative facts? Clinton never deported 12 million people, of course, you're going to say "I didn't say that! I said that in response to TFG saying deport, but I said "removed" without defining it, or supplying underlying statistics."
Go ahead, pal. Prove me wrong.
Now you are just being silly
Of course , if you are illegally in any country and you do not qualify for asylum then eventually you will be deported.
All of the scenarios you describe above involve deportation AFTER due process has been followed.
Obama and other Presidents before/since decided that the commission of a felony meant summary deportation regardless of any other factors , which is fine as the commission of a felony is generally disqualifying.
That is not Trumps proposal though and you know it, he just wants to use the military and a greatly ramped up ICE to round up all the brown people and deport them immediately without any due process , without any review of the merits of their requests to stay etc.
And it is brown people because unless they plan to stop every single person and "ask to see their papers" what other criteria do you think Trump might suggest they use to identify potential illegal immigrants especially given that he's said he'll deport them all day one of his new Presidency??
Eski is just making up numbers at this point. Clinton removed 12 million people? Nonsense.
Trump would do 2 things first back in office after throwing smoke bombs at the media and that’s get a fresh list of US spies sent over to the Kremlin to be taken out and work diligently to disband NATO. Mar a Lago will once again be a pipeline for US secrets to flow out to BRICS in exchange for dollars.
I think the S in BRICS should be changed to "Saudi Arabia." I believe that's where the goodies went from Mar-a-Lardo, look how wealth Jared's gotten as a result.
Ultimate bottom feeder is going to help TFG now. Says he's going to help TFG, what with all the little Englanders in MAGA-land.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-general-election-reform-uk-b2550079.html
Eski?? Don't you know you're not allowed deadname them
It's not nonsense.
According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration. More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration.
According to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, more than 12 million people were “deported” – either removed or returned – from the US during the Clinton administration.
More than 10 million were removed or returned during the Bush administration. Far fewer – more than 5 million – were removed or returned during the Obama administration.
In fact, during his term, Trump deported far fewer people than he originally intended to.
Racist who lost 7 elections doesn't stand for an eighth. That's all this is. He knows his name is dirt here.
BRICSS would be more appropriate for this fascist authoritarian axis of 💩
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Where are you from and living that the southern border is more concerning to you than a rapist being elected to the most powerful position in the world?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gop-blocks-democrat-mentioning-trump-trial-house-floor-1235025838/
Total hypocrisy. According to the majority it’s perfectly okay to accuse the sitting president of crimes without any evidence but so help you if you mention a court and two juries found a former president liable for rape, the words will be stricken from the record.
maybe if I post an extra post on this thread the next page will emerge?
nope…
Hilarious, i knew that specific circular posting style reminded me of someone…..
Eski will we ever find out about the imaginary article about marcus rashford?
I'm delighted we don't have to see Farage peering out with every post. Replacing him with JK kinda gave the game away, tbh.
So what you're saying is that Trump was really bad at doing the thing he based his entire Election on ??
If you read the article it says that Trump was really bad at it because he had no plan and he was completely disorganised.
Obama and Clinton before him and Biden today focused on two categories.
The recently arrived and the longer term illegals who had committed Felonies.
Trump wanted to target everybody and anybody , just has he plans to do again and that absolute lack of focus crippled his ability to do it properly.
So Biden is removing 2 to 3 times as many as Trump did yet you think Trump would do a better job somehow??
According to the CATO Institute (Who about as right wing a think tank as you could find ,Charles Koch was one of the founders)
According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
So - Trump was a complete failure at "Securing the border" , just as he's been a complete failure at everything else he's ever touched other than his ability to con people out of money of course and convincing them that he cares about them.
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