Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
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"The reported £50k a year he is on at Virgin"
Where was this reported?
Since about 2018 myself and a slew of other posters had identified the reality of Tubsidy’s broadcasting talent or lack thereof, and were confronted with gaslighting type responses by Friends of Tubsidy .
Threads in any way critical of Tubsidy were complained about, and there was a certain narrative accepted by a certain status quo and you breached it with trepidation. This cohort of early critics have been thoroughly vindicated, but we had to wait because this is How Ireland Works
I know right. Savagely overpaid.
This is clickbate from Evoke
https://evoke.ie/2023/06/13/entertainment/soaps/10-surprising-fair-city-facts
Go on you want to click it to read what they have said about the audience numbers
On average, 550,000 people tune in to Fair City every night, which makes it the most-watched drama series in the country.The series even rivals its British counterparts Coronation Street and Emmerdale on Virgin Media as viewers around the nation tune in everyApart from the launch episode which brought in over one million viewers the most-watched episode to date was aired in 2001 and saw Billy Meehan being killed by Lorcan Foley.
On average, 550,000 people tune in to Fair City every night, which makes it the most-watched drama series in the country.
The series even rivals its British counterparts Coronation Street and Emmerdale on Virgin Media as viewers around the nation tune in every
Apart from the launch episode which brought in over one million viewers the most-watched episode to date was aired in 2001 and saw Billy Meehan being killed by Lorcan Foley.
This is not an up-to-date figure they are using.
Home and Away back in the day was getting 300k of an audience!
It first airing on RTÉ ONE has 90k to 100k and RTÉ2's later showing has 40k to 50k, while its often the top most watch show on the RTÉ Player. That brings them close to that 200k figure at least (not to mention the +1 showings of the show, and its omnibus editions). It'd be interesting to know how well each of the tradition soaps are doing across TV and online.
I agree that he would be savagely overpaid at £50,000. However that's not what I asked. Where was it reported that he is on £50,000 at Virgin?
From some newspapers I think we are estimating between 50k and 100k, TBH at this point this is not really what matters IMO
I read in one of the UK papers ages ago that he was on 100k. But 50k of that was on condition that he increased the listener numbers.
After this Virgin fiasco, any salary for Tubridy as a radio presenter will seem too much. It's he who should be paying the company to put hims on air....
To think he could still be in Montrose hoovering up €180k pa for sweet FA, if only he could have engaged with reality and made a humble apology. I bet he wakes up in cold sweats about that little folly.
So if that 50k starting is correct but he has only held onto 28% of the previous presenters audience then mark to market he'll now be on 14k.
However I still suspect his current position is subsidized via sponsorship and personal contributions.
He probably would have NK highest earner so it's logical that NK would do anything to keep the brand of a former cash cow relevant.
Multiple places
Yet only a couple of days ago regarding Callan, you were straight on telling us all that his audience figures had dropped "as I predicted".
I wanted to see if there were any improvements or changes made to the presentation of The Ryan Tubridy Show from my last experience so I just listened to the first hour as the format of the remaining next two will be copied exactly.
Each hour consists of about 7-8 links for which the overall sound is just a mess, no seamless integration from music into presentation and presentation into music - very erratic. There are too many links containing unnecessary content generated by Tubridy and examples of the presenter not finishing his words - for instance mentioning Saturday as Saat, taking breath and then quickly charging onto another trajectory. He doesn't appear to have the ability to mix his audio into the opening of a song which may contain music at its start and end his link in sequence with the beginning of the start of the songs vocal. The end result is a harsh sounding -segmented presentation. The show is a poor attempt to fit a square into a circle and I don't believe that there is anyway that this show could actually attract listeners.
He is now talking about Roy Keane's dog. I'm out.
I listened to Callan today, doing a little bit of waffle, play a song, then chat to an author, and just thought to myself that our Ryan must be absolutely kicking himself as to how he has royally fdcked up his career.
That would have been him in his element today, earning really east money for very little work. Plus he could have been finished by 10am, abs been out walking in the sun by 11am, with the rest of the day his own.
Instead he is away from home, probably paying huge rent, working until 1pm, for so much less money.
What a mess he made.
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It would have been NK who organised and then advised him to take the dodgy payments. So he surely must be trying his best to get back on Tubridys good side now. Dont think it will be too long til they part company.
The Irish Independent's "well placed source" says £50,000 to £80,000.
The Business Post's "well placed source" says £50,000 to £80,000.
Buzz.ie quotes an "insider" saying: “His profile just isn’t big enough in the UK, but he could be taking home between £70K to £100K."
So it has been reported that the speculation is that he would be paid between £50,000 and £100,000.
Yes. A little bit of contrition and humility at the time and it could have been oh so different. He relied too much on his agent and probably should have sought other advice at the time.
Even until the last few moments with Kevin Backhurst, it was salvageable. I pity the fool, as Mr. T used to say.
Now, based on those RAJAR numbers, he carries the stench of failure - something they don't prepare you for in Blackrock College.
examples of the presenter not finishing his words - for instance mentioning Saturday as Saat, taking breath and then quickly charging onto another trajectory.
I have only heard brief clips and I can't get over how difficult he is to listen to. I never listened when he was on RTE so I'm not sure if he was always like that.
I switch back to Q102 when his show is over because I like easy listening around the house or in the the car, and it's straightaway back to someone who has a pleasant voice and manner of speech. That's all I want really.
He sounds as if he's having a breakdown.
With such awful listenership figures, you’d have to wonder if Noel “Duck Egg” Kelly is considering jettisoning the former golden child Tubridy now???
I tuned in for the first time since January out of curiosity.
After EMF / Unbelievable, Ryan launches into a book recommendation (Hagstone by Sinead Gleeson). Despite it being a recommendation, he says "let's read the blurb" which is an odd way to sell a recommendation.
"I hear the siren call of the West of Ireland calling me back, even for a break"
Careful what you wish for.
You can believe what is reported or you can't that is up to you.
As it is a commercial for profit company he is more than likely on a base payment at the reported 50k and the rest is incentive based on listenship and advertising take up since he is not a recognisable name in the UK marketplace he would have to earn the higher end by bringing in the listenership and advertising revenue to prove his worth to that compnay.
However you are again fee to believe whatever you want believe.
Not in my head he's not, haven't thought of the tosser till I saw an article that his audience had fallen from previous incumbent.
Life lesson in the big bad world for Tubridy where you have to survive on merit.
Noelly babes took on a product to sell in the first place because said product had guaranteed status, except it didn’t and it’s failure has put Noelly’s operation and methodology into big question. Would be better going back to Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory now. Reputation is everything.
And in that respect Tubs' lack of humility and contrition did the Irish license fee payer a favour.
The proposed offer to Tubs of €170k was crazy and showed, even with Bakhurst, that there was some unconscious bias, perhaps based on previous Tubs salary, that he was in any way worth that phenomenal sum. Hard to see how he can ever get back to that gravy train now that he has been commercially found out.
Id be dubious about fair city beating home and away. I hear people talking about h&a from time to time (and the in laws still regularly tune in) but never about fair city (apart from discussing the salary for the photographer role).
I wonder how would his radio show have gone if he had kept his mouth shut. Even though the RTE scandals are no longer getting the airtime they did, none of it has really gone away. Would his position have become untenable if he'd stayed on Radio 1? Would he have lost listeners?
The radio show would likely have chugged on with a marginal reduction in reported listenership tbh. I'm open to correction on this but afaik the 9am news was rolled into tubridys numbers, added to the fact that the Jnlrs generally do not seem to stack up in the context of a changing culture around media consumption.
yeah, probably would have lost about 13,000 listeners 🤣
I think he would not have been able to resist spouting about how he felt so unfairly treated, once his feet were back under the desk. I am still incredulous at the fact that he was being offered the job back.
I didn't get to watch the appearance(s) before the committees but I saw a clip of the impassioned speech about how his name had been mentioned so many times, in news reports, or whatever. He felt very hard done by and he wasn't going to have the cop on to move on, without having his say.
His diehard listeners, or indeed those who listen to Radio One out of habit would probably have stayed with him, I guess. I wonder too, how those who worked directly with him, would have felt, had he returned that time.
