According to this it's 77kW peak
https://ev-database.org/car/1423/Hyundai-Kona-Electric-64-kWh
The very warm weather and possibly a long trip that also warmed the battery is probably the reason. Ideally you want your battery to be around 30 degrees Celsius, but with high speed charging it also needs to start cooling the battery to keep it in it's sweet spot. Some cars can deliberately pre warm the battery on the way to a charger, but the car needs that option.
Note there is also what the charger claims and what the car sees. The charger may report higher and the car lower as there are losses..
you must have went at a busy time 👀
Interesting interview here with the CEO of KIA Australia. The cycle of change is accelerating (pun intended).
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/it-is-going-to-change-dramatically-kia-says-chinese-brands-like-mg-haval-chery-byd-gac
Greece have introduced a law that EVs travelling on ferries can't have more than 40% SOC. Not sure how strictly it will be enforced if at all, but is there evidence of higher SOC batteries being more likely to go on fire?
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The electricity might spill out of the battery, to be fair to them. At least petrol and diesel don't combust under compression anyway. Clearly the safest option!
Donuts in the ferry queue to drain your battery?
Just run the windscreen wipers for a minute :)
If you have an EV from Toyota, turning on and off the AC a few times should do it for you. Down to 40% in no time.
Thoughtful of the boffins at Toyota to design that feature in ahead of time.
I mistook you to mean the edible kind of donuts and was wondering how that would help 😂
Except maybe getting some donuts while you have the heating on full blast to drain the battery
The tyre mark kind would probably be more effective in that regard
Not as tasty though 😋
ADAC certainly weren't impressed, mentioned that EV fires are a lot less common than ICE
They're also less common that marine diesel engines catching fire I imagine 😏
I assume the argument against the high SoC is that overcharging a lithium battery can cause it to oveheat
Dunno where the 40% figure came from, most likely it was pulled out of someone's backside
I remember hearing that a half empty fuel tank is more dangerous than a full one because it's full of evaporated fuel which is more flammable
Certainly in the heat in Greece it's possible
So I think all ICE cars shouldn't be allowed onboard without their tanks being filled
Incidentally, I've a new idea for a business venture, dockside petrol station. Only €15/l, cheaper than a new ferry 😉
I can also use a V2L charger to discharge all the EVs that are over 40% SoC to power the petrol pumps. Gold sustainable energy source 😂
Odd considering the Greek authorities historical approach to marine safety would have been somewhat lax.
e.g
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Norman_Atlantic
What's the best location for a top-up between Dublin and Belfast, on a July Saturday morning if that makes a difference? Question spurred by another thread saying Castlebellingham is bad. Might not even need it unless it happens to be raining, but useful to know just in case.
I'm guessing you don't have a Tesla and the superchargers at Castle Bellingham are no use?
Ionity at the Kennedy centre is a good option near Belfast
There's also Ionity City North if you need to charge closer to Dublin
Just saw this on Reddit. Very interesting.
I've rarely seen more than 54kw peak with my Kia Niro (last gen), which is a lot of shared internals to the Kona, at least the older models. Saw 77kw, the expected peak, at the J14 M8 Mayfield chargers for the first time just this Sunday, and have used those before but never seen above 54kw. Used Ionity and same day, and the day before with similar conditions and charge rates - but ~54kw max. I think the car and charger combo is fussy - but fingers crossed ESB chargers are working better with it now.
Hit 77kW on ESB charger yesterday, with MY22 Niro EV, on empty battery (19km left). But it obviously kept going lower and lower while charged. Approx 45 kW while ended charging session.
Toyota have essentially thrown in the towel….
https://www.ft.com/content/b54ddc3a-1924-457b-a680-0a2ef098de76?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3CsTg3nipog9a56IVYptAbvzdd1XcUgevE3S0E5EZe4I0fnGpFkqIpIOg_aem_AbimXGu6DAxattlBxwoRPncDl5i9FAshuv3wIrAGhISS1rs_Psy0MdbYoExSny-70hiTT8PKVwZ5UOxcSbTc5Bry
Any chance of a copy and paste? The article is paywalled
Clickbait perhaps…
that’s weird as it wasn’t paywalled this morning when I read and posted it….
Essentially they are throwing money into new ICE engine development albeit smaller, and more suited to work in conjunction with a battery…
Essentially: Hybrid is the future.
You get a couple of free articles per month with the FT. See this link.
I think this is Toyota making a statement of being the defacto vehicle for everywhere that can't go EV today of which many countries fit that bracket and those people who simply won't for all the negative press reasons.
They will have an ev platform in their pocket to pivot when needed . I'm not reading much beyond that. They know who and how they sell their vehicles and it's fairly sensible from their perspective they've always been conservative .
A bit over dramatic? The EV9 is near but the smaller EV9 (EV3) is far away😄
Went to London Stansted for the day yesterday and hired a Polestar 2. Lovely drive. At the Hertz counter 3 of the 4 people in the queue were taking EV's.
Abb unveiled a new 400kW charger. Two hoses can simultaneously deliver 200kW each or 400kW if one vehicle is charging.
Is the Lidl and Easy go scenario of 50 cent live now or is it still to be rolled out?
In the ad, Lidl stated “now” so I’d assume it’s active. Their 22kw points are 45c/kwh in Drumcondra.
Clonshaugh is 50c/kwh so definitely active.
thanks. Wonder will any of the others follow and drop their prices?
I was ready to have a moan about another rubbish charger that just splits charging in two instead of allocating more dynamically, I followed the link to back to the ABB page, it's much better than the article. The power is allocated in 50kW chunks. If one car needs 100kW, that leave 300kW available for the 2nd car.
