I wasn't thinking of Teslas!!
It was more the likes of the bigger jeeps etc. I know top gear tested the electric lexus jeep and it was poor on efficiency.
Funny enough, I drove sandyford to north Dublin this afternoon in mine. Just keeping up with traffic. 14.9 kWh/100km. 😂
Oooh! That's meaty. 😁
Am I missing something here? The repayments are only €422 per month when you enter the exact same details before you place your order and now that the order is placed I'm being quoted €482.98 based on the exact same details...
Screenshot before order was placed.
Must try harder😄 BTW what tyres are you running? I've the pzeros and wondering if they help or hinder efficiency
Hated the PZero. Had them on previous Model S and hated them. Had the Michelins PS4 on this and they lasted 40,034km. Now running Hankook Evo IoN EV tyres. Only on about 2 weeks but average since putting them on is 15.4kwh/100km. But it has been fair weather since.
They should agree if All elements are the same . On the website if you expand the "Show Details +" you will get a more precise breakdown of all of the components for your configuration (see image below as example) and use this to compare to ALL the specifics of the actual finance offering (Including, milage optional final payment). You didn't show exact spec but my instinct is that there will be some element that is different …perhaps the residual . In your example it is EUR15,796.23 and in the example below (screenshot) for the lower monthly repayment of EUR422 the residual is EUR 14,671.
Might try the Hankooks when the time comes, it will be a while though as the pzeros are pretty new.
I mentioned before that they scrabble a lot on loose road surfaces but also they are probably the loudest tyre I've had for some time especially at motorway speed.
The GY efficient grip I've had on the Leaf for the last 6 years are pretty silent by comparison, although it's rarely the Leaf gets up to motorway speed😆
This is my 2021 LR at the end of March this year 15.7 kWh/100km or 6.37 km/kWh after 48k km
By comparison 2023 model Y RWD 16 kWh/100km or 6.25 km/kWh It the same now after 30k km
and a 2019 Kona with 15.2 kWh/100km or 6.58 km/kWh @73k km
Most of the km driven are on M50 but in the same time there is no motorway in Ireland where these cars have not been driven.
I still haven’t bought an EV but have been looking at used M3 Tesla’s for a while now. I cover Galway, Sligo and Dublin and live in Dublin so do about 4-5000kms a month. Is there any M3 owners here who cover similar millage and if so how have they found it? I have a home charger and would obviously have to use superchargers a bit too but I’m currently putting in about €700-€800 petrol a month!
I’d love a M3 performance but realistically a LR would be better…
P Zero’s are just terrible tyres for some reason despite their high price. Hankook or Michelin PS4’s are much better.
the LR is the only option really. It won’t get you to Galway or Sligo and back again at motorway speed (about 420/430km total?), but you’d only need a short destination recharge.
While almost none of the 2nd hand M3s represent value, the LRs are slightly better value than the rest.
Thanks for your response. I would have thought a Performance or LR would do 420-430kms taking it handy 120kmh speed on the motorway? Maybe not in the winter though.
Enfield is about 50kms from where I live so if either could cover about 380kms it might suit? Stop in Enfield for a top up.
Not the era your price range is at, I would not expect that range for a 2019 LR at 120kms/hr
I’d be looking at a 2021 or 2022 not a 2019
2020 M3P.
19.4 kWh/100km on a recent 346km trip at motorway speeds plus vat at times.
Speed drop to 110 would probably see 17’ish and also depends on weather.
Here's an example of my my M3P doing a journey of ~210km. Pretty much doing 120km/h +-2/3% the whole way. Left Enfield with 73% and arrived with 14% charge.
There's a supercharger in Athenry so you'd be able to charge there on the way back too if needed. Have a look at https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ and you can plot out some journies with the different Tesla models and you'll get an idea on what you might get on a new battery. As to how much degradation there'd be on an older one I'd hate to guess.
EDIT** - So based on that in decent weather I'd expect at most 360km at 120km/h going from 100% to 0% which you'd obviously not do in real life.
in the real world you won’t be doing 100-0 and won’t get close to 420-430.
I used to do a regular 340km motorway trip @ 120kmph (170km each way) and in winter I’d have 10% remaining when I got home. You don’t really want to be going much lower without having some margin of error. That was a 221 LR and I drove it like it did my previous diesel.
If you know you’ll make it, absolutely nothing wrong with getting home on 1%.
Tesla have a silly "hidden" buffer, there is a good 30kms + below zero but like everyone else I neither have the need or desire to go there
Absolutely, when I was UK long trips I'd be gone from a SUC once I could reach the next one at around 4%, because of their reliability and accuracy of car energy use I never encountered any issue
Thanks for all the responses. Food for thought alright. Realistically even a LR won’t do a 425km trip in one go it seems.
On teh route west from Dublin you are travelling on probably one of the best served routes for charging… so a splash and dash in any of them should see you through…
Confirming as a 2021 LR owner that Dublin-Galway return is not possible without a 10/15 minute charge. The Athenry Superchargers are at a very nice location but you may spend additional money on their tasty seafood chowder.
Thanks but I’ll leave the seafood chowder all the same! Do you always charge for a bit in Athenry or would you get as far back as Enfield on the way home for a similar charge?
I did North County Dublin to Galway and back over the February bank holiday weekend in a 2020 SR+ and took on an outbound charge in Athenry which I didn't need as there were chargers at the hotel.. left the hotel at about 97% and made it home with 10% left.. speed limits all the way.
In an LR, all you'd need is a 10 minute top up in Athenry on the way out or back to easily do it.. Sligo you could probably eek out the full journey on a single charge given most of it is 100km/h or less.. maybe a top up in Carrick-on-Shannon in winter.
So far I have never done just a day return to Galway but it has been some longer trip. So usually charge there both ways after spending time wherever we go in the West in between.
Day trip, Dublin to Galway return, needs 5 min top up at SC, longer if using slower chargers. Longer in winter time.
232 LR here, driven at motorway speeds.
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