Then you have to factor the % of EVs in the total number of cars on the road and it's like (as stated earlier) 1-3%.
So any car park would have tiny % of EVs relative to ICE vehicles.
It's a nonsense article.
That second link is amazing as I had contemplated crossing the Nullarbor once but even in an combustion car the planning involved just put me off it. I don't think the road was finally sealed until the 1980s.
I met a good few aussies in Perth who would think nothing of loading up a few jerry cans and driving unsealed trails for days just to get away from the noise of the city, which is funny considering they'd also bring a noisy jenny to get aircon in their tent!
Remember watching a documentary about a cyclist crossing some of those areas in OZ it was a struggle to carry enough water.
Anti EV - The only car fire I've ever witnessed was when the petrol diesel car went on fire inside a high rise car park in Douglas Cork.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41390773.html
Edited: Diesel not Petrol
The sheer distances force you to plan nearly every trip beyond suburban sprawl, and its not just the long distances involved. One of the things that really put me off that Nullarbor trip at the time was the road had actually been cut sporadically by fire, so you had to factor in such events putting extra days on your journey.
Suburban Oz is perfect for EVs, anything beyond that is an adventure, for ICE and EVs!
Hypermile behind a road train ..
I drove all the way around, and into, Australia in the last century. But we were in a Camry so didn't leave the sealed road unless we had to. If I get a chance to do it again, it will be in an electric RV.
Fairly sure that cork fire was started by a diesel Zafira. But I get the point you are making. Ironically enough the examiner were very slow at jumping to conclusions claiming "it has yet to be established if the vehicle at the centre of this incident was a model involved in the recalls"
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30959872.html
It's definitely a trip of a lifetime, but I spent three years of my life there but I'd happily do a few years in an electric RV touring around Europe. RV have more surface area for solar so I can well imagine it becoming a future trend.
the argument here cuts both ways. There fire was started by the hvac system in the zafira; so it was an electrical fire.
Lol.
Guess it's time to ban all cars with air conditioning from car parks then
Or they could just remove the AC units and that will lighten them enough so that the car park doesn't collapse.
Certainly a lot of hot air from team Fud.
just saying the cause of the fire was the by all accounts the fan resistor an electrical component. Most vehicle fires I know of were caused by the wiring. The method of propulsion did not figure, there is though an argument that the more battery the more chance of fire.
would you agree that there is a false perception amongst Joe public that evs are more likely to go on fire despite that being factually incorrect?
Statistically there isn't.
The only battery here is the battering your giving to any credibility you might have had.
my understanding is that if they go on fire they are hard to deal with. If there are in a crash and the high tension cables are shorted things can go south quick.
The suggestion they spontaneously combust is not borne out by experience as far as I know.
cool that's not even close to the question I asked you though. But while we are on it do you not have the same concerns of your hybrid?
I suspect a petrol hybrid is far more likely to catch fire than a diesel (which may not even ignite if you stuffed a burning rag into the fuel tank!!!)
Strangely enough, diesel is more flammable than petrol. It's the petrol fumes that are explosively flammable, the liquid not so much. When you think about it, a petrol engine needs compression and ignition, a diesel engine just needs heat and compression.
Just as a fyi
"...Leaks in the fuel system are the most common cause of vehicle fires, …"
back in day all you needed was a perished fuel line to a carb, but that day is gone. It is nearly all electrical shorts nowadays, i don’t need to look that up.
I’m not a chemical engineer, but petrol will flash far quicker with a flame than diesel, I don’t know what that makes them.
Well I did look it up that's why I quoted it.
well it’s wrong.
Was it really the HVAC system?
yes
https://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2021/2021IEHC163.html
So maybe we just ban cars that store combustible fuels near electrical resistive heat sources from car parks. Has anybody got as far as sticking a heat pump in an ICE yet?
EV's are almost double the weight of normal cars
https://www.newstalk.com/news/electric-vehicles-weigh-almost-double-traditional-family-cars-1725132
it’s good to see a moderator bring a discussion right down to snake town. My point is that electrical fires do happen with regularity. I don’t know if that means evs are more at risk, that is beyond my qualifications.
Yes, I own a car with both a heatpump and an ice so they exist.
