Christ almighty is this a comparison being made between a person's view on a car and a sexual predator? And yes I also detest the look of the Ioniq 6. I wince everytime is see that rear end
Glad I brought a smile to your face on this miserable day 😎
I can think of a lot of stronger words for sexual predators let me tell you, ones that would have my post removed unfortunately. Wondered was appropriate IMO, in the same way I detest garlic mayo.
My chuckle of the day when I saw this post :) People generally "detest" sexual predators or disease perhaps, but in a M3 thread, an Ioniq 6 is detested.
It's a car, not life or death!
Yeah of course. I can’t see Model 3 or ID3 etc bought depreciating a huge amount now that they’ve reduced the new prices to something that is more reasonable. As long as you didn’t buy before the big price drops you’d be doing alright
High end/luxury cars always depreciated heavily. Ever tried buying a 3 year old 7 series or S class? RR (and RRs) would be part of that too.
Not the same class of car as a bog standard model 3 or ID etc
To be fair theres a lot people suffering even worse than 50% depreciation now. Mostly due to electric car prices tumbling over the past year. Petrol and diesel seems to be holding stronger, but high end cars such as Range Rovers are still depreciating at 50%. You can buy a 3 year old RR Sport for under €60k now.
Pre covid it might have been 50% in 3 years but it isn’t anymore.
and LFP battery sizes could now vary as some from China and potentially some from Berlin but we won't know for a while until we start seeing VINs
LFP is for the RWD Standard Range only.
Do all of the Model 3's coming into Ireland now have the LFP battery or are there differing battery technologies depending on whether you go for standard or long range?
Would be interested in the same trips with a newer LFP RWD, or a Highland RWD. I would guess 12.5 / 12.0.
and bear in mind that that car won't have a heat pump in it… (though I believe the weather was nice in Ireland last week?).
but yeah the efficiency in the OG SR+ cars is amazing… In the summer I sometimes have a 50km round trip to collect junior BoBandy from my mothers house, so I drive from Rush down to Artane/Beaumont and back (so a mix of rural, city & motorway driving in that 50km spin), and the best I think I ever managed was 10.9Kwh/100km (I was trying to be efficient), which would give my 409km WLTP car a theoretical range of 449km (on a full charge, and If I was doing that round trip, on that particular day non stop).
Ioniq 5 I like. Ioniq 6 I detest. 3 of them in work. But they are technically a great car.
EV6 I like.
I’ve had a loan of an M3 RWD from 201 this week. 315km done. Mixture of city and M1 driving.
Average is 13.1 kWh/100km. That’s something else!
I saw a €23k one sold from donedeal, but literally nothing else in the past fortnight. Every ad still there, every one of them priced to the sky. It’s such a weird market
Yeah, everyone is shocked when I tell them I paid €20k for my Model 3, they seem to think its a €40k car despite it being 5 years old.
Ya definitely is still the reputation out there that Tesla's are off the walls expensive. No advertising obviously doesn't help them there. Everyone Ive talked to since my father got his model Y thinks he paid 70-80k for the car. They can't believe it when I tell them 42k.
€38.6x2=77,200 leaving €22,800 for a second hand M3. I think it’s possible now!
at 1 point a few weeks ago €100k would get you 2x brand new Tesla’s and you’d still have €24k in your pocket to probably pick up another 2nd hand one!!
I am mister Joe Public in a lot of cases. Tesla pricing being one of them, however, like us all I manage to step out of my Joe Public guise in my own areas of expertise!
Thanks for the info though. I was genuinely thinking all my neighbours were absolutely minted with two €100k cars in the driveway.
Fair enough. In fairness though, for some reason Joe Public thinks the same. My aunt told me the other day she couldn’t afford one of my Tesla’s. I asked her how much her Honda Civic was…….€44k!
Ah… I thought the same model available now for €40k was €100k. Thanks.
Yes, the covers pop over the rim
They were never €100k. They were €50k in 2019 when the Model 3 SR+ launched in Ireland.
Not at all. I’m referencing the price I used to buy used cars at compared to the price they were new. I could give you the prices that I sold them at here and you could compare them to Irish new prices at the time if thats more relevant for you. I could also link some Irish cars that I can see on Donedeal right now that are a fraction of their new price, but this really isn’t the thread for it.
Lol.
Youre referencing bringing in 2nd hand cats from the UK before brexit. Dude you're not even on the original point anymore.
I stand by what I said. If I walked into Audi Dublin and bought a brand new any Audi for 40k in 2021 ( not real price) it wouldn't be 20k today. That's rubbish.
Sorry to derail the thread but your actually deluded. 50% off after 3 years has always been the industry standard and you have no evidence to back up that its incorrect.
Here are some real world examples. Just before Brexit I used to buy 3 year old Golfs from the UK for around £7,500. I used to buy 3 year old Passats for £8,500. And I used to buy 3 year old Ford Focus for around £7,000 too. These are cars that are known to hold their value well yet I could buy them at these prices. How do you think I got them so cheap? Because of depreciation.
I’ve been selling cars for many years, and specifically dealt in 3 and 4 year old cars just before Brexit, so I can assure you that all cars lost 50% in 3 years. There are EV’s loosing more than 50% now that the dust has settled. The only reason Teslas have held their value so well is because there has always been a lack of supply and in the early days they sold in small numbers here.
It's most definitely not the way it used to be. Maybe for dealer offers but not private sales . Who propagates this stuff it's not even real or covid related. You aren't getting any car for 50 percent off after 3 years.
those 100k Tesla are still that new…
Should I buy a Tesla?
When they came out they were 100k, now they're 40k, I have a 162 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and Solar (that during the summer powers the car)… I don't do much mileage every day, barely use petrol in the PHEV.
