Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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They did interview her. Her name is Trudi Etchells.
Whoever did sign the receipt would have to keep quiet and Bruno would have to know that they would keep quiet. The whole somebody covering for him just doesn't seen likely.
Well, we can't neither prove nor deny this possibility.
Anything on Gerry Scully or the neighbour he spoke to on Monday morning at 7:30?
You’re right, it was unlikely to be something trivial like leaving a gate open, especially the gate in the lane, which any visitor had a right to use. But what if someone thought they were entitled to enter Sophie’s property to go about their daily business, but Sophie thought otherwise. Someone on her front lawn or in the lane by her back door, who she believed had no right to be there? She would consider that trespass, and would be right to confront them.
True, especially if they were on drugs themselves or about to collect their stuff for Christmas?
Collecting something hidden in the pumphouse maybe?
If the set up in the kitchen is to be believed it’s possible she was cutting bread for breakfast and looked out to see someone at the outhouse. She goes outside, down through the field and catches up with them at the gate. Maybe she intercepted them taking something from the pumphouse near the gate?
Though I can’t see where the discarded bottle of wine would fit in with that unless it is a complete red herring. I’d considered she gone down to the gate with the wine to give someone as a gift.
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I think "intruder collecting something from pumphouse" (or barn?) is actually a plausible theory. That house was so seldom occupied, they just didn't expect anyone to be there!
If they were on foot, they probably wouldn't have opened the gate right back, as it was found; they wouldn't need to.
Therefore, they were most likely driving.
Drove a little way up the lane, turned the car in maybe the Richardson's entrance, drive down to gate again ready to leave…and then jump out to get whatever-it-was; and at this point the indignant owner of the pump-house and the land it was on, comes out of her house to remonstrate - about the open gate? or the trespass on her property?
But she runs down to the gate to engage with the intruder. And darkness descends on the story. Who was it, and what were they doing there?
Might explain why the block from the pumphouse was used-did it have to be removed to retrieve something?
That's an interesting idea.
As a hiding place, the pumphouse would be ideal. Property not associated with the dealers/growers, easily accessible, only occupied for a few days every year………
I think that is a really good theory.
And behold, if you owned a house and you looked out your kitchen window one winter morning and saw a member of the public actually pulling a block out of YOUR pumphouse - well, you absolutely would rush down to have an argument with them!
Strange to think a dealer who has all of West Cork to hide some drugs, would choose another pumphouse in a random property. Would it not be easier to hide it out in nature, literally anywhere that people don't go.
It's possible the pumphouse was used as some kind of hiding place or secret letter box for something ? drugs? And whoever was using this to hide and later to collect didn't expect Sophie to be there? And neither the Richardson's.
But they would have known Alfie and Shirley were there all year round.
"..But they would have known Alfie and Shirley were there all year round. "
Well, yes. And also one or two other persons had access to the area, who also had connections with drugs.
It sort of has to be someone local, wouldn't you think? Not many people ever passed that way.
And Sophie had to be eliminated because she could have given the guards a description of the person, or their car.
Its also noteworthy that Alfie himself was known to grow a bit of the old ganga, and another regular visitor to the area, Leo Bolger, was active in the business……………………….
Anyone watching Bodkin, the Obama produced Netflix series? Premise is a group of podcasters go to a village in West Cork to investigate murders 20 years earlier. Only watched the first episode but 20 mins in one of the locals suggests a horse did it. Few shady characters, a dodgy guard and a whiff of drugs/organised crime.
Sounds familiar.
Well now, WHAT does that remind me of? ;-)
That's well known, I think.
“And Sophie had to be eliminated because she could have given the guards a description of the person, or their car.”
Or their name(s)?
I believe the answer lies with whoever was living in the locality at the time, possibly within a mile or two of the murder.
Yes, but my point is that as a convenient place to hide some stuff, the pumphouse would have been ideal for Alfie or Leo or both. Close enough to keep an eye on it but not actually on either's property. Easy to access, nobody else around for most of the time. And, in the event of discovery, easily deniable.
Well, ether could have left something there; a nice little bundle of Christmas cheer. To be collected.
If Alfie had done the attack on Sophie, though, I'm surprised he left that for Shirley to find.
As for Leo, we don't know so much about his moves.
I'm guessing a client, though, rather than either of these "producers".
It's very much possible that this was the case. After all, drugs or anything drug related is one of the possible motives in this murder.
I would also suggest whoever was involved in drugs certainly didn't expect Sophie to be around on Christmas.
Were the Richardson's in the habit of visiting their cottage over Christmas? Probably not?