Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Options
15905915935955961031

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Afghan in Dublin lays out the plan. Get all the legal stuff sorted and then call all the family over once that is sorted.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Apparently the Mount Street offices have been closed down - there is nothing there for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    The country’s International Protection Office has been closed down?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It might just be a temporary measure - the actual street is inaccessible to anyone and the IPO offices are not open.

    One imagines too there will be a Garda presence there for the next few weeks. Anyone who comes along and tries to pitch up a tent will be stopped immediately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    2 minutes till opening time so perhaps someone will update their official website.

    IMG_4498.png

    What about all those currently enroute to the IPO in Mount Street from wherever in the country or world they are right now?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    There is no reason for them to be there anyway. They can still walk into the office without camping there.

    It's clearly an protest tactic that they are there in the first place. It's not fair for the people who work in those offices to have to deal with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    They certainly can't return there today anyway. Even the media don't have access to the street, never mind anyone else.



  • Posts: 295 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is a well thought out explanation of what has happened to Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Why do you think we should facilitate this? Do you think we should house every Afghan and their family who arrives?. What do we owe Afghanistan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Will Virgin Media be offering lifts back to Mount Street again if our visitors don’t like their new abode??



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    So much for reuse and recycle ♻️ Roderic O’Gorman - Member of the Green Party



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    Jaysus… depressing on so many level. Multiply this by what ever figure you are having yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Capacity is the big issue. Not processing time.

    Processing time being short is humane and is good for all concerned but even if you can process people in 24 hours, if youve only space to house 200 succesful applicants a month and you are receiving 400, you have a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭dmakc


    So to sum up, public uproar around the mount street tents, Government blames UK and shifts the IPA tent users elsewhere to become a plight on a random village, and also moves the IPA office away from city centre. A job well done in this government's eyes.

    No solving, just literally moving the problem. The incompetence here is unbelievable.

    EDIT - This also looks like the Mount Street community has "vetoed" who moves in beside them. I thought that was the government buzzword in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭brickster69


    I think we are starting to understand why all these boats are mainly full of young men. The wives and kids are all at home waiting for the flight tickets to come through the letterbox.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,443 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Any mention of locations of those six 'immigration reception centres'? Elections are only five weeks away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    At least the eye sores are gone and the poor residents and business can sleep easier at night but this blight of immigration will just be moved to someone else's door and once again the Irish citizen will suffer once more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Is the IPA office being moved though?

    its closed temporarily while the clearance occurs, but may reopen.

    I could see Citywest or similar becoming the reception centre for all applicants long term. It doesn't make sense to have it in the city centre when the future numbers are unknown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭dmakc


    "if he gets it" … that's the issue… the only thing this man is fleeing is his wife and six children.

    If everyone were like him, multiply our IPA numbers x 7, see how long the country lasts.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    No chance - but you can more or less guarantee they will not be in any areas of the cities where the residents have money/influence or in most ministers constituencies. Even though we are repeatedly told we have no say in who comes into our communities - that seems to only apply to the working class. That reception centre in ballsbridge died a very quick but quite death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gerogerigegege




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Anyone know how much per day per person?

    I was listening to Niall Boylans podcast a few days ago (out of morbid curiosity) and a caller mentioned a family(had to be a family to skirt fire safety rules) of 12 in a house next to her taking in 28k per month based on 90(I think) a day. Is that correct? If so no bloody wonder so many B&B and hotel owners are doing it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    He says…

    I think it is… you will get a house…

    He obviously thinks thats what happens if your application is successful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭engineerws


    I know three working families up for eviction and two more families that were evicted with one going into emergency accommodation and then about 100 miles away removing three from school and another that was under huge stress and had to move 60 miles away and pull their child out of school. I just remembered another family too and haven't seen them in about a year so eviction must have completed for them.

    I think the rules need to be modified to ensure better support for families facing homelessness in Ireland.

    Fwiw, we moved from Dublin to a more affluent area and there are not similar problems. So many (e.g. wealthy politicians) may think there are not big problems when in fact many families living in Ireland are under huge stress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    It's not about throwing hands up in the air — it's about being humble in recognising the enormity and complexity of the issue. This thread is full of people who just want to vilify certain politicians, complain about the status quo, and pine for easy solutions that simply don't exist. This achieves the square root of f**k all. There is no sustainable future for migration policy that is not built on learning to see the sincerity behind the views of those who have different opinions from you. So for those who spend their time on here arrogantly calling others incompetent, or stupid, or unpatriotic, or uncaring of Irish people — I say, enjoy the intellectual masturbation but know that you are part of the reason why problems with migration will persist.

    If you want my solution, I will say it time and time again that the interests of all European countries are absolutely aligned in ensuring that the external borders are made more robust through deep and proactive partnership with North African nations and other countries from which migrants are entering illegally. Military/naval/physical infrastructure can only go so far. We need to co-operate with these countries, not give them "aid" or threaten them with punitive measures, but enter deals as equal partners for extensive trade, development, security and (yes) likely offering those countries legal working opportunities for their own citizens in Europe. This also involves heavy assistance to the likes of Italy and Greece and (again, yes) an equitable programe for the sharing of refugee intake across Europe to avoid any one country being disproportionately affected.

    I think that's as close as we are ever going to get before we have to start looking at tougher travel restrictions that will affect us all and the reversal to some extent of the ease of international travel. But interests are not aligned on this so it won't last.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    It is absolutely depressing what is happening, people calling this out the last year or more were told they were racist and right wing. How did those idiots in charge both Government and Civil Service not see this coming when everyone else could.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭gw80


    The Dublin agreement will be scrapped when the pact is in force.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Brixton Sticky Owl


    You'd have to wonder what information is being shared about Ireland and its systems. A lot of people seem to know exactly what to say. We are a soft touch even with our own.

    I know people sitting in new builds that never worked a day in their life whilst those of us that work are in this struggle loop to fund it. It's such waste and so frustrating.



  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 295 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Id happily accept reduced travel freedom if it meant better controls on who enters a country. Populations sizes dictate that if this is allowed to continue all European countries will be unrecognisable in a generation or two. Slum villages will pop across the continent.



This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement
Advertisement