I'd heard previously that they were going by road from the port, but I didn't know why. But this seems to be the reason. Nice to see a bit of new life at the works in Inchicore to be honest. And it shows the infrastructure for the project being delivered, when a lot of people seem to thinks it's stalled.
still seems a bit mad to move them by road, is there no flat bed wagons that could be used to shift them by rail?
I saw the old 8200 going for refurb without the bogies.
Maybe bogies are a dealer added extra.
Oh, I do love when construction pictures finally appear on infrastructure threads 🙂.
Presumably they wouldn't fit under bridges or tunnels in that case
if they've no bogies and the flat bed wagons are about the same height as bogies would be, they should fit, but who knows.
Are Alstom supplying both bogies and cars? If I remember rightly, on the 22k DMUs, Tokyu did the bogies and Rotem did the cars. (The joys of procuring rolling stock for a weird-gauge railway...)
One thing to note about the UK is that a lot of what they built was cheap "headspan" catenary. It was cheap and visually un-obtrusive, but not always reliable. Any more substantial structures built in recent years for catenary are probably a reaction to that.
These, I believe, are articulated sets, meaning that adjacent carriages share a bogey. You can't deliver these one at a time, complete with bogies.
The 8200s aren't going for refurb; unless this was decades ago you may have seen the one that's been cut up to use as a trainer by the NTA going somewhere sans bogies
Is this Inchicore ?
Is this not relevant only to multiple tracked areas? For single or double track, single masts are the overwhelmingly dominant choice all over Europe. The heavy structures in recent UK electrification have a long horizontal girder arm holding the overhead for 2 tracks.
Years ago, down in the docks, when they did the last refurb.
The 8200s have never had a refurb. I think you're confusing them with the 8100s
Are they low sized geen things? Then I will settle for 8100.
yeah
A little look at the new trains in the Alstom factory
RTE too
Was up in Skerries visiting family over the weekend. I brought up the fact that the DART will be extended up there. To my surprise one of them told me that people in Skerries can be “a bit funny” about things like this. Then she explained that quite a few people up there are opposed to the DART coming into the town because it’ll bring riff raff!
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2024/0429/1446427-ianrod-eireann-new-trains/
First 2 sets to be shipped in September, also mentions that ETCS may allow higher speeds.
it also mentions future orders could be used for intercity services, is this just an error?
Will the new trains reduce the time from Maynooth to Dublin?
I assume this has been posted before, it's the first time I've seen it so maybe a few others will benefit too. Really good overview of DART+ (and the "CART" 😆)
interesting confirmation of what they're planning at Bray/Greystones (he quickly skips past this slide in the presentation):
The works planned for Bray Greystones are actually the original plans from the 1990's
The FG by election pr stunt spoke of a loop at the level crossing, known locally as Redford, even a possible future station. When reality hit as to how expensive it was the bare bones minimum was built
the Jacob's Engineering report recommended doubling all the way from the tunnel to Greystones station, but that's a massive job so it's not surprising that they're going for the minimum required to allow trains to pass each other. Irish Rail's shoddy timekeeping though doesn't fill me with confidence that it won't still be a a bit of a mess.
You could get almost a mile of double track from the tunnel before you hit issues
The line was built for 2 tracks originally so there is space but the overbridge on the La Touche Road presents a major challenge
there's about 700m between the tunnel and the small level crossing (that they'll presumably close) - after that the line starts to go up onto an embankment which is definitely not double width and then there's a cutting through rock closer to the station.
The simplest fix today would be a set of trap points on the north end of Greystones station would allow parallel arrivals into the platforms from each end
Quite impressed by the presentation. It's good to see IE have reinstated the Capital Investments function, which bodes well for the future, and also that they are hiring people with his type of experience.
A few things I liked
2. Information about how the service will work. BEMUs will operate from Connolly to Drogheda. I presume that means that if I want to take the DART from Bray to Drogheda, I'll have to change trains at Connolly, switching from EMU to BEMU.
3. IE being at the forefront of BEMU usage in Europe (it kind of gives the impression that the guys in Alstom did a good sales number on IE management!)
I expect they are the people with 5 generations buried in the churchyard, and who look at you like you're clinically insane if you suggest you might want to jump on a train to Malahide or Dublin for an evening out.
