I'm just quoting what he said, people can believe it if they want. I'd like to see how they define uptime though.
Article also says
We did 2.1 million containers last Saturday in 700,000 transactions that’s 700,000 successful and seamless transactions
It's hard to believe these are seamless transactions based on reports here and other places.
I haven't had issues with using the machines apart from having to queue to use them. That is hardly seamless when people said there wouldn't be queues.
genuine question, when the bottle goes down the chute of the machine, does it get crushed? And then dropped into a bin?
who collects the bins?
There's no guarantee the pellets will actually be recycled, especially in the case of PET.
Re-turn cannot guarantee they will be recycled, if there do not recycle anything themselves.
True or false?
So where does Re-turn guarantee that all items collected will be actually recycled?
If you are going to make such statements of fact, the onus is on you to support it.
Yeah, I found his use of the term 'seamless transaction' unusual. If someone has to put a bottle in 3 times for it to be accepted it's not a seamless transaction.
"Uptime" must mean not switched off, of course as the majority of us have discovered switched on does not equal operational.
We did 2.1 million containers last Saturday in 700,000 transactions that’s 700,000 successful and seamless transactions.”
He was obviously present for all of them.
Unfortunately we are going to have to put up with years of this absolute scutter PR talk where blame is fired in every direction but the scheme.
He is blaming the retailers this week, they don't know when to empty the bin apparently.
Crushed or shredded, if the machines are working properly. Lidls fragile messes seem to be inconsistent on that.
Re-turn collect them, although shops can/do swap them out between collections.
Jesus ****ing wept!!! 700,000 in a day… if thats even close to usage patterns it's catastrophic. We need to stop using plastic!
I have used this return nonsense a few times, and would estimate that 75-85% of my items are cans and not plastic. It's not only plastic involved here. In my household there are 2 tech workers and a teenage gamer, that's a lot of monster cans being returned!
All part of the plan lads.
You would think that but they seem to have broadly ignored the smoking ban
They don't really have one to begin with. Plenty of rauchbars (smoking bars) still around, legally - the rules vary from state to state and a few don't allow them at all; but most do and require them to be under a certain size, a certain outflow speed of ventilation and limited numbers of staff.
Clearly the machines like everything else in the shop are not available for use when the shop is closed.
Therefore the baseline for uptime is calculated on the opening hours.
there are many machines located externally to the store, not internally.
Not much point in keeping them on out-of-hours though, there'd be no one around to clear jams and restart them etc.
If they are switched on and available for use by the public when the shop is closed then the baseline is different for them.
The externally located ones I have used are switched off out of hours.
went to 3 diff locations with a bag of cans and not one Fcuking machine working
absolute joke of a system
Was waiting at a local bus stop last week, and noticed there was a woman going through peoples green bins that had been put out. She seemed to be doing alright out of it, and had two large black sacks gathered of bottles and cans.
why arent there any of the plastic milk bottles returnable?
Dairy products are exempt from the deposit, so therefore not eligible for return.
If you are asking 'why' that is, I think it was lobbying by the industry based on the difficulty of keeping milk containers clean etc.
Grim
If they got the manager of our local lidl to come on and discuss up time he wouldnt stop for hours. He told me that the machines basically cost him one full time staff member because they constantly require someone to drop everything and go over and sort something out with the machine. Then the queues build up not just at the machine but at the checkouts of being a staff member down because of the machine. Told me as soon as the get a machine working again and leave they are back again to it within minutes.
my initial point above is that i have been at external machines that have been switched off with shutters pulled down, DURING opening hours.
i wonder is that is included in "uptime" but i really doubt it.
That's my experience of using the local Lidl machine. Small sample size but on three visits the machine jammed/gave up the ghost each time leaving me to lose the deposits on what I'd put in and try the machine beside it. That small sample size of three is not likely to become higher as I'm not bothered wasting time getting annoyed at machines that don't work and I'm certainly not hanging around while a staff member comes over and tries to fix it.
barely ever see anyone at the aldi machines I park across from.
one machine is now out of order.
Jesus Wept. Waiting for a staff member to get the bin working again.
Remember when we just use to put rubbish in our 100% uptime bin?
ah i see @ armani
I did that this morning. My green bin has 100% uptime, even after regular shopping hours.
100% uptime. No paper vouchers. No electricity needed. No malfunctioning. No extra staff required. What a magnificent piece of eco-friendly tech.
Yes it's true, they could of course go ahead and incinerate them. However to me it would be a massive waste to have put so much effort into the collection to then not recycle them.
I think it's logical to assume they will eventually be recycled
